I'd be happy to help out. I have set up and managed several lists
related to our Wikimedia LGBT+ community.
As a well-known commentator about the WMF and safe spaces, including
running a global RFC that held to account a WMF board member, it might
add a useful perceived balance to moderation rather than everyone
being "vanilla flavour".
Fae
On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 at 10:08, Asaf Bartov <asaf.bartov(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Indeed, there is a potential conflict of interest here. This is why I
strongly tend to leniency, *especially* when unacceptable discourse
coincides with criticism of the Foundation. In this case, we received
requests from two list subscribers to moderate Dan. We did so, while
underscoring that it was *not* for criticizing the Foundation.
I think I have something of a track record of supporting open debate and of
encouraging and engaging with criticism of the Foundation. I think there
is indeed plenty to criticize; the Foundation is far from flawless.
But people don't have to endure coarse language and vitriol at the same
time. By all means, express disappointment, lack of confidence, suspicion,
whatever, but do it in a civil manner. Dan can continue to do as well, of
course. I have already let one message of this through moderation.
All that said, it would of course have been better if we had a couple of
list-admins more, without ties to the Foundation, so perhaps it is time to
recruit them. Is anyone interested?
A.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 1:56 AM Todd Allen <toddmallen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Erm, wait. He said what, "fart"?
It's not a particularly good look for a WMF employee to be moderating
someone critiquing the WMF, especially when, while their statement may have
been strongly worded, it used pretty mild language. This should either be
undone, or at least decided upon by someone who doesn't work for WMF.
That's a substantial conflict of interest.
Todd
On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 1:57 PM Asaf Bartov <asaf.bartov(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Wikimedians,
List subscriber Dan Szymborski has been placed under moderation, due to
posts with unacceptable language.
I remind everyone that criticism is appropriate and welcome on this list,
so long as it remains civil and respectful of the people involved.
Asaf (volunteer capacity)
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