I cant get there through your link, maybe something is happening
Cheers,
Peter
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From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of James
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Sent: Thursday, 02 March 2017 4:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] a second commons, prevent cease and desist business
We have a publisher who have created a few hundred thousand books based on Wikipedia text.
Here is an example of one of many
https://books.google.ca/books?id=aQPMAwAAQBAJ&pg=PT100
They do not attribute Wikipedia and they do not release the content under a CC BY SA 3.0
license. They claim copyright to the material themselves and are selling it / misleading
the people who by the books. I have reached out to them and they refuse to comply with our
license even after being asked.
Should we take legal action against them? IMO yes we should. While we should ask people to
follow our license before taking action, if they refuse than we should follow through with
enforcement.
James
On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 5:50 AM, Todd Allen <toddmallen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The CC-BY-SA license asks for a basic courtesy: You
give an
acknowledgement to the person who graciously let you use their work totally free.
It takes all of five seconds to add "Photo by ___________" to a
caption. It takes very little more to add a note that the photo is CC
licensed. I can see why people are a bit put out when someone won't do
these very minimal things in exchange for a rich library of free (as
in speech and beer) material.
Todd
On Mar 1, 2017 10:44 PM, "rupert THURNER" <rupert.thurner(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
on the german wikipedia there was a poll to ban
images of users who
send cease and desist letters, triggered by a recent case of thomas
wolf trying to charge 1200 euro out of a tiny non-profit which
improperly reused one of his images [1]. thomas article work includs
"improving text deserts, and changing bad images to (often his own)
better quality images"[2]. there is a broad majority against people
who use cease and desist letters as a business model. anyway a small
number of persons do have such a business model, some of them even
administrators on commons, like alexander savin [3][4].
but the topic of course is much more subtle than described above,
the discussion was heated, and the result close - as always in the
last 10 years. a digital divide between persons supporting the
original mindset of wikipedia which sees every additional reuse,
unrestricted, as success, and the ones who think it is not desired
to incorrectly reference, or feel that others should not make money
out of their work.
as both are viable opinions would it be possible to split commons in
two, for every opinion? the new commons would include safe licenses
like cc-4.0 and users who are friendly to update their licenses to
better ones in future. the old commons would just stay as it is. a
user of wikipedia can easy distinguish if she wants to include both
sources, or only one of them? there is only one goal: make cease and
desist letters as business model not interesting any more,
technically, while keeping the morale of contributors high, both
sides.
[1]
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meinungsbilder/
keine_Bilder_in_Artikelnamensraum_von_direkt_abmahnenden_Fotografen
[2]
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Beitr%C3%A4ge/Der_Wolf_im_Wald
[3]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:A.Savin
[4]
https://tarnkappe.info/ausgesprochen-peinlich-abmahnfalle-wikipedia-
interview-mit-simplicius/
best
rupert
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