I can say that in Italian Wikipedia, in many edit-a-thon that WikiDonne
organized, in time we had often cases where the whole newbie's user page
was deleted immediately, without even warning. Because inside was write for
example "this is a test" or because the page was empty.
Needless to tell you the loss of those who participate in an event and in 5
minutes see the own user page deleted or sometimes even blocked. People who
already enter with lead feet, because complexed by entering and editing in
a community of perfectionists (as we are seen from the outside).
Someone asks for links to demonstrate what is said, but knows that this is
hard work, it means remembering everything and looking for hundreds of
discussions. One should simply remember or put the guideline of good faith
into practice and simply trust. Paulo has right when says that
sometimes *established communities
of editors treat newbies as unwelcome invaders.*
This is not an accusation email to see who is the culprit, but rather a
discussion to see what can be done to improve, since we have a very big
problem of retention and loss of users.
Camelia
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Il giorno gio 20 feb 2020 alle ore 02:50 Samuel Klein <meta.sj(a)gmail.com>
ha scritto:
It would be nice to have a tool for long standing
editors to clean up a
newbies talk page for them, leave messages for the overeager templaters,
and help them out / welcome them in untemolsted language.
Then a little ML could go a long way in guessing which newbies are in this
situation and generating a queue for newbie-care. ~~~
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On Wed., Feb. 19, 2020, 4:35 p.m. Andy Mabbett, <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk
wrote:
> I have just come across a case on en.Wikipedia where the daughter of
> an article subject added details of his funeral (his death in 1984,w
> as already recorded) and his view about an indent in his life.
> Her six sequential edits - her first
and only contribution to
> Wikipedia - totalled 1254 characters, and were conducted over the
> space of 30 minutes. They were no the best quality, lacking sources,
> but were benign, and exactly what one might expect an untutored novice
> to do as a first change.
> As well as being reverted, she now
has three templates on her talk
> page; two warning her of a CoI, and sandwiching one notifying her of a
> discussion about her on the COI noticeboard. These total 4094
> characters or 665 words.
> How do other projects deal with such
cases?
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