FYI
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 20:33:29 -0400 From: meta.sj@gmail.com To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] (semi-OT) Open access "catastrophic" for Elsevier
It's funny, most organizations point to our community as am example of how to manage such things with volunteers.
Another example: law reviews offer an excellent and widely reproduced model where the most esteemed publications are run by students. On Sep 24, 2012 6:33 PM, "George Herbert" george.herbert@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Richard Farmbrough richard@farmbrough.co.uk wrote:
On 24/09/2012 03:49, Risker wrote:
the costs of peer review
I have academics complaining to me that they don't get paid for peer
review,
so I'm not sure what these costs are.
Someone has to edit the magazine, pre-accept papers, and handle the peer reviews.
Peer review logistics is non-trivial - identifying reviewers, ensuring the reviewers review, on time, and making sure they did their work and sorting it out if the answer is neither unambiguously yes or no, etc.
I just went through this process on a system administration paper for the LISA conference this year; their peer reviews were significantly lower impact (few paragraphs per reviewer) and done with anonymity and visibility to the author via a web tool. They still have a couple of people at HQ handling the logistics of the system and related paperwork, plus the conference chair, plus the paper's individual Shepherd (introduced recently). I think they only pay their HQ staff, but still non-trivial effort. Hundreds of dollars a paper, at least, and much less than other more scientific papers would take (I think).
They're not charging authors or authors' companies/universities, and the papers are open-access. They appear to handle it as conference overhead, and charge for the conferences.
Probably can't do that for most journals, and ads with a conflict of interest are taken badly...
-- -george william herbert george.herbert@gmail.com
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