I think thats a little disingenuous to say that we dont take care of our
volunteers and that its a negative message to not give some financial
reward to admins.
We came here by choice, whether we are here for a long time or a short time we
chose to add to the sum of all knowledge for myriad of reasons. Some of us
choose to accept additional functions to support what we are creating,
whether thats to clean up the projects or reach out to new contributors.
Over the last 13 years I've brought books to access sources, cameras to
provide photographs, I've spent 1000's of hours travelling at my own
expense to get photos, to talk to people, to encourage them to bring more
knowledge onto wikipedia. Yes I've benefited along the way, I made
wonderful friends, I been to places I wouldnt have got the opportunity to
go to, I learnt a lot of amazing things and in my own way I'd like to think
I've made a lasting difference. Actually I know that everyone else like me
has combined to make a difference, I've been privileged to see wikipedia in
use in class rooms helping students to learn, I've seen it used on social
media to answer questions and in real life to do the same thing.
I've seen how people with disabilities can be a part of a community where
those disabilities dont define that person, I've seen how oppressed
minorities have been lifted up just by seeing their culture included and
being able to add to that without fear or repercussions.
Every volunteer gets rewarded for what they do, when we shift to paying a
person they stop being volunteers in that aspect of what they do. The
best reward the WMF could give is not cash, its helping more people
experience the in person connections and give them a greater sense of just
how magnificent this community really is through access to events,
scholarships, and other opportunities.
Never in all my time have I ever thought, or experienced anything that
remotely looks like the Wikimedia Community doesnt value what the
volunteers do, even when contributors push the envelope in negative ways.
On 28 May 2018 at 16:03, David Cuenca Tudela <dacuetu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
My view is
that the Foundation was suddenly (but not without warning)
made legally responsible for its own content after Trump made hosting
providers responsible for facilitating online prostitution
advertising, at pretty much the same time the GDPR went in to effect.
I do not know enough about the bill to comment on this. I can say that even
if the Foundation was made legally responsible for the content, in general
the level of care and attention to detail seems to be quite high in most
Wikipedias.
The Foundation has frequently tried a number of
paid editing trials,
Can you please point to me where to find them?
Has been tried before donating directly to volunteers with no strings
attached?
and I think that's a good thing because
donors are likely to stabilize
at paying enough to pay all the past, present, and future wikipedias a
very comfortable hourly rate, plus interest, still have a large and
swiftly endowment to figure out how to invest responsibly, and will be
able to outfit offline applications such as space hotels with a new
LCARS skin I am trying to get Mike Okuda to commission.
Realistically the money is always tight, however even with a limited amount
of money it is still possible to do nice things for volunteers or at least
for some of them.
The Star Trek aspect of this shouldn't be fancy ideas about the future, but
realistic ones like enabling volunteers to follow their passion, freeing
them from work whenever possible, supporting them in the mission, and
joining efforts with other non-profit organizations to create a favorable
social climate.
I think the Foundation employees...
Here I was referring mainly to volunteers, specially those who take a heavy
burden on their shoulders individually. It can be argued whether WMF
employees are receiving enough generosity from the Foundation or not, what
is clear is that employees already receive *some* generosity. On the other
hand volunteers receive no direct generosity, unless they find other
activities that qualify to apply for a grant. That in my opinion conveys
the message that if you are a volunteer you don't deserve to be taken care
of by the community just by doing what you are doing, which in my opinion
is a very negative message that we are giving to volunteers, donors, and to
society in general.
Kind regards,
Micru
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