On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 1:28 AM, Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I think it is much more likely that a Wikipedia reader would expect to find
> those images *used in Wikipedia articles* than a massive collection of
> stuff that is somehow tangentially related to Wikipedia in a way that they
> don't fully understand.
>
> So why on earth does the main "multimedia" search link on Wikipedia
> automatically return unused results from Commons to begin with? Is that
> really the right way to go?
I'm breaking out this question since it's a concrete technical
proposal; it should probably also be raised on the multimedia list.
But we should answer it from the perspective "What's best for the
user", rather than have it be driven solely by the NSFW corner case
(which may also appear when searching images used on a project like
en.wp alone).
As a user, I might want to find images to add to an article. Having
results from the central repository presented locally makes it easier
to do so without visiting a separate site. (Consider this from the
perspective of smaller projects especially, where the local search
would be pretty much useless.) This is why VisualEditor presents
Commons search results, as well.
As a user, I might be interested in multimedia about a certain topic I
just read about in Wikipedia. Showing only the results already in the
Wikipedia article(s) about the topic would make it harder to find such
media. Simple example: Let's say I read an article about a city, and I
want to find other historic maps of that city. In many cases, these
maps do exist on Commons but not locally. Should we therefore force
people to visit Commons to find them?
I would argue that from the ordinary user's perspective, the
distinction between Wikipedia/Commons is less important than what they
have in common, i.e. being large repositories of useful educational
content (and hyperbole aside, 99% of Commons is pretty boring stuff).
We could default to displaying locally used media and offer to search
Commons with an extra click. From a usability perspective, you want to
minimize the steps a user has to take, so good UX design would likely
disclose results from Commons either a) always, clearly labeled or b)
when no local results are available.
There's no question that search UX, both on Commons and on Wikipedia,
can be improved. I'm just skeptical that an unbiased evaluation of the
user experience using standard UX heuristics would lead to a design
that hides explicit content from initial search results. Distinguish
different types of content more clearly and make it easier to find the
stuff you want - sure, that's doable.
Erik
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Erik Möller
VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation