Wikimedia-l November 2011

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[Foundation-l] Non free copyrights (was Wikipedia ideology)
by WereSpielChequers 04 Nov '11

04 Nov '11

> > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 12:58:32 +0100 > From: "Peter Damian" <peter.damian(a)btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia ideology > To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" > <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: <B5D73D52B61047D99DB70BB610E8F971@edwardPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > > What license(s) will the book be released under? > > MZMcBride > > Very funny :) > > I have just completed my book on Scotus, which will be submitted to > the Catholic University Assocation Press next week. Assuming it gets > through their lengthy approval process,it will be published under > whatever license they use - I imagine the 'evil' one. > > So to for the Wikipedia book, but it is early days to > approach a publisher. > > If you ask why, I reply that no method has yet been devised > to give attribution to the author of a work in a way that advances > their career. I will earn little or no money from either work, I > imagine. Note that Andrew Lih's book, which I have ordered > from Waterstone's, is also under a standard copright license. > At least I assume - I paid good money for it, because it > was not available any other way. > > However, I do publish material on my own website, > the Logic Museum. I fund this myself, and the translation work > such as here > > http://www.logicmuseum.com/wiki/Authors/Ockham/Summa_Logicae > > is published under a 'free' license. > http://www.logicmuseum.com/wiki/The_Logic_Museum:Copyrights > > I don't get any formal recognition for this. I do it because I want this > material, which is very hard to get access to, even for subject matter > experts, to be freely available to everyone on the planet. > > Edward > > > I don't see the question as humorous, nor indeed do I see non-free licences as evil. As a community we spend a lot of time making sure that the non-free copyrights that others have used are respected. But there is a default expectation here that when we ask for volunteers time, the end result will be released under a free license. So when someone asks for people to put time into something that won't be under a free license then I think that at the least one should be up front about that; and being upfront and open about it may even get people thinking about alternatives. We have very similar issues in the research area. Would it make it more difficult to publish your book if the arrangements were more like "The book will be published under a commercial license, and any "off the record" comments will remain so. But where the interviewee agrees, transcriptions of the interviews will be posted on ??????? within x months of the publication of the book."? WeeSpielChequers

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[Foundation-l] Wikipedia ideology
by Peter Damian 03 Nov '11

03 Nov '11

Greetings, I am writing a book on the history of Wikipedia and the Wikimedia movement, focusing on its 'history of ideas'. Would any Wikipedians be prepared to be interviewed for this? Obviously long-standing Wikipedians would be a focus but I am interested in anyone who is involved in the movement because of passionately held convictions or 'ideology'. A general question: is there a Wikipedian ideology? What is it? In particular, how does the current ideology, if there is one, compare with the ideology which inspired its founding fathers. And mothers - many of the founding editors of Wikipedia were women, I don't know how many people know that. Edward

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[Foundation-l] Office Hours
by Oliver Keyes 02 Nov '11

02 Nov '11

Hey guys Brandon, Howie, Fabrice and I will be holding a second Office Hours session on the new Article Feedback Tool on Thursday 3 November. This will be at 24:00 UTC, which works out at 4pm PST and 11pm GMT. This timing is designed to allow east coast editors, who would be at work during the normal time periods, to attend. I hope to see you all there :). Thanks -- Oliver Keyes Community Liason, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation

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[Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove
by Möller, Carsten 02 Nov '11

02 Nov '11

> On 10/29/11 12:40 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > There have been LOADS of opportunities where the community > is asked, begged to be involved in what will be the way forward. The most > obvious opportunity has been the Strategy project. At this time the > Wikimedia Foundation is looking for all sorts of volunteers > that are asked to help determine what future functionality will be like. > Specifically I want to mention the need for "language > support teams" and volunteers for our mobile development. > > The position of the WMF as I know it is that it wants very much an > involved community. To be effective, it is important for > the community to be involved early in the process. Sadly the foundation is only able to communicate their wishes when she wants to. The fundraiser banner is always pushed into all communities, we cannot ignore it. Other subjects are more or less hidden in meta and discussed in English only. Vector and the Filter are the latest examples, which caused some resistance. The changes of the terms is another one. The German version was published at the end of the discussion on meta. And there was definetely no announcement like: "Hey, it's time to collect some money" on all pages. So dont tell us again we are too late. Carsten -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 4471 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

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Re: [Foundation-l] Public domain Mickey Mouse. At last.
by Dominic McDevitt-Parks 02 Nov '11

02 Nov '11

Hi all, Since it hasn't really been mentioned, I just wanted to point out that this image, never before available to the public in high resolution, was uploaded to Commons as a result of our ongoing cooperative efforts with the US National Archives (i.e., my residency). Its copyright status was listed as unrestricted in the National Archives' online catalog, where the scaled-down image has been displayed for several years without (apparently) any incident. Of course, these copyright statuses can often use a second look, and I am happy for it to get the extra scrutiny at Commons, especially one as complex as this. I don't have any extra insight to offer copyright-wise, and am interested to see the community's decision. However, I would also like to take the opportunity to talk about the broader effort here, which I think is more important than one image of Mickey Mouse from a war poster, as symbolic as that is. Beginning in July, I began an effort, in collaboration with NARA staff, to quite literally upload the entire National Archives library of digital content in high resolution. The National Archives—with billions of pages of records, tens of millions of photographs, and hundreds of thousands more sound recordings, videos, and artifacts—has hundreds of thousands of digital images in their catalog, nearly all of which is in the public domain. The 60,000 uploaded so far[1] include thousands more posters like the Mickey one from the WWII and WWI era; historically significant photography from Mathew Brady, Dorothea Lange, Ansel Adams, and other notable photographers; photos of Native Americans, of the Depression, of the national parks and the environment, of the Civil Rights Movement, of presidents and their activities, and of every US war from the Civil War to Vietnam, including incredible manufacturing and Japanese internment scenes from the home front in WWII; ultra high-res TIFFs (~150 MB) of the Declaration of Independence and other founding documents; other textual documents, including historical maps, laws, court records, census cards, and the letters of diverse personalities, from Susan B. Anthony to Albert Einstein to Winston Churchill to Elvis Presley; and even other oddities like an ancient Roman bust, a Remington statue, ancient Chinese terracotta soldiers, a Diego Rivera painting, bullets and other evidence from the JFK assassination, a First Lady's evening gown, and a ceremonial Beninese wooden headdress(!). This is a huge task, and it requires a community effort to help categorize images, to use them in Wikipedia articles, to transcribe them on Wikisource, and just generally show them some love. If finding Mickey Mouse in the National Archives means anything, hopefully it's that this is a diverse and significant, and sometimes surprising, collection that deserves more care and attention—especially since many cultural institutions, domestically and internationally, are following the project with interest. For more information, check out the partnerships page on Commons < http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:National_Archives_and_Records_Adm…>, and its sister WikiProjects on Wikipedia and Wikisource, linked in the tab header. Dominic [1] See the upload feed at < http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListFiles&user=US+Na… >.

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[Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove
by WereSpielChequers 02 Nov '11

02 Nov '11

> Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:31:07 -0700 > From: Brandon Harris <bharris(a)wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] On certain shallow, American-centered, > foolish software initiatives backed by WMF > To: foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Message-ID: <4EAB2D2B.3020803(a)wikimedia.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > On 10/28/11 3:27 PM, Etienne Beaule wrote: > > It's disabled on certain wikis because of technical problems. > > > > Oh? I wasn't aware that it had been disabled anywhere as yet. > > WikiLove was not rolled out "en mass"; the policy for deployment of > the > tool is that it is by request only, and the requesting wiki must: > > a) Make sure the tool is localized (via TranslateWiki); > b) Make sure they have a local configuration; and > c) Show community consensus. > > So if it was enabled and then *disabled*, I have not heard of this. > Is > there a bug report I can look to? Or if you know of a wiki where this > is the case, I can do a search. > > Thanks! > > -b. > > > -- > Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation > > Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate > > Good to hear that wikilove is only going in on wikis where there is consensus for it. Can anyone give me a link to the discussion that established consensus on EN wikipedia? The nearest I could find was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28miscellaneous%29/Arc… Ta WerepielChequers

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[Foundation-l] Latest fundraising test update
by Megan Hernandez 02 Nov '11

02 Nov '11

Hey all, Just posted the lastest results from last Friday's test on meta. We got in some new editor appeals and different banners, take a look: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011 -- Megan Hernandez Head of Annual Fundraiser Wikimedia Foundation

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[Foundation-l] New IRC Group Contact
by Filip Maljkovic 01 Nov '11

01 Nov '11

Hello, I am pleased to announce that Casey and I have chosen Barras as a new IRC Group Contact. He is an experienced and trusted user and we think he is going to fit in the team nicely. He will join our team effective immediately. On behalf of the Group Contacts, Filip Maljković

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Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove
by Craig Franklin 01 Nov '11

01 Nov '11

Personally, I find the whole "WikiLove" extension to be a bit naff and schmaltzy. I'm generally not thrilled when I get a WikiLove kitten or anything, just like I'm not touched that my local member of Parliament has thought to send me a form letter about how hard they're working for me. It's harmless enough though, I just choose to ignore it. With that said though, if a particular project community decides they don't want it, why should it be forced upon them? I think this principle should apply to *all* extensions, not just "harmless" or "global improvement" ones. Cheers, Craig > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 22:57:25 +0300 > From: Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre(a)live.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove > To: <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: <SNT121-W28CDC17A85796201E442FEBFD00(a)phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > Etienne, > Why any Wikipedia would not want the Wikilove feature? This is inconsistent for me. Wikilove's a global improvement, there's no reason to disagree improvements. _____________________ MateusNobre Wikimedia Brasil - MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects (+55) 85 88393509 30440865 > Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 12:31:24 -0300 > From: betienne(a)bellaliant.net > To: foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove > > But if we enable it at a wiki that doesn't want it, there could be a > boycott, and vandals just get the place up to there "code". It would be > very detrimental to wikipedia. > > > On 11-10-29 12:27 PM, "Nickanc Wikipedia" <nickanc.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > IMHO, Wikilove is something so important about wikipedia's ethics and > > behaviour that shall be in every wiki. IMHO. > > > > 2011/10/29 WereSpielChequers <werespielchequers(a)gmail.com>: > >>> Message: 1 > >>> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:31:07 -0700 > >>> From: Brandon Harris <bharris(a)wikimedia.org> > >>> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] On certain shallow, American-centered, > >>> foolish software initiatives backed by WMF > >>> To: foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > >>> Message-ID: <4EAB2D2B.3020803(a)wikimedia.org> > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 10/28/11 3:27 PM, Etienne Beaule wrote: > >>>> It's disabled on certain wikis because of technical problems. > >>>> > >>> > >>> Oh? I wasn't aware that it had been disabled anywhere as yet. > >>> > >>> WikiLove was not rolled out "en mass"; the policy for deployment of > >>> the > >>> tool is that it is by request only, and the requesting wiki must: > >>> > >>> a) Make sure the tool is localized (via TranslateWiki); > >>> b) Make sure they have a local configuration; and > >>> c) Show community consensus. > >>> > >>> So if it was enabled and then *disabled*, I have not heard of this. > >>> Is > >>> there a bug report I can look to? Or if you know of a wiki where this > >>> is the case, I can do a search. > >>> > >>> Thanks! > >>> > >>> -b. > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation > >>> > >>> Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate > >>> > >>> > >> Good to hear that wikilove is only going in on wikis where there is > >> consensus for it. Can anyone give me a link to the discussion that > >> established consensus on EN wikipedia? The nearest I could find was > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28miscellaneous%29/Arc… > >> ve_33#Thoughts_on_WikiLove.3F > >> > >> Ta > >> > >> WerepielChequers > >> _______________________________________________ > >> foundation-l mailing list > >> foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > foundation-l mailing list > > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

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[Foundation-l] Public domain Mickey Mouse. At last.
by David Gerard 01 Nov '11

01 Nov '11

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%22Appreciate_America._Come_On_Gang.… Holy shit. - d.

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