Wikimedia-l May 2007

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Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising
by Walter Vermeir 20 May '07

20 May '07

Casey Brown schreef: > Everyone seems to have huge ideas about fundraising! Would anyone be > interested in discussing these ideas in real-time on IRC? I have set up an > IRC channel for this purpose. If you are interested in discussing these > ideas, either before you propose them somewhere else or just want to chat > about them, I suggest you join #wikimedia-fundraising. > irc://irc.freenode.org/Wikimedia-fundraising. > > Casey Brown > Cbrown1023 > > P.S. Anthony, since you seem to have very many ideas along this level, I > suggest you join especially. Notice: this channel is added to the webbased IRC-CGI service of Wikizine - http://chat.wikizine.org - If this channel is dead after some weeks/months it will be removed again. It is between #wikimedia-commons and #wikimedia-fr in the pulldown menu. That is all. - WalterBE -- Contact: walter AT wikizine DOT org Wikizine.org - news for and about the Wikimedia community New: "Wikizine auf Deutsch" and "Wikizine en Español"

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[Foundation-l] Solera/WMG Notice
by Jeffrey V. Merkey 20 May '07

20 May '07

I resigned as Chief Scientist of Solera Networks effective May 8, 2007 and am no longer employed there to allow me to devote 100% of my time to the Wikipedia based business opportunities and several other businesses I am starting. Jeff

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[Foundation-l] Fundraising
by Casey Brown 20 May '07

20 May '07

Everyone seems to have huge ideas about fundraising! Would anyone be interested in discussing these ideas in real-time on IRC? I have set up an IRC channel for this purpose. If you are interested in discussing these ideas, either before you propose them somewhere else or just want to chat about them, I suggest you join #wikimedia-fundraising. irc://irc.freenode.org/Wikimedia-fundraising. Casey Brown Cbrown1023 P.S. Anthony, since you seem to have very many ideas along this level, I suggest you join especially.

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Re: [Foundation-l] [announcement] new staff member inbusinessdevelopment
by Anthony 20 May '07

20 May '07

On 5/20/07, Casey Brown <cbrown1023(a)comcast.net> wrote: > We should all know that the Foundation raises MILLIONS. :) However, I think > what Anthony doesn't understand is that money is used in many different > ways. We have to pay for servers, maintenance, we have to pay the staff, we > have to pay for the domain, we're currently giving away scholarships to > Wikimania... there's a lot of stuff that that money goes to and there are a > lot more places we would like send it if we had more money. :) > Please, there's no need for you to accuse me of not knowing this. Of course I know that the money is used, and I know to a large extent how it's used. Anthony

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[Foundation-l] [Fwd: [Fwd: Re: business developer hire - whose decision?]]
by Florence Devouard 19 May '07

19 May '07

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Fwd: Re: business developer hire - whose decision?] Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 15:30:59 +0200 From: Florence Devouard <anthere(a)anthere.org> To: foundation-l(a)wikimedia.org I am sorry Anthony, but I actually answered to your question, but the email did not make it to the list. This is something that regularly happens with my emails to the lists, I have no idea why. I asked the tech team, but they have no idea. I find the emails on my sent box, but they do not make their way to the list. I wish I knew... Anyway, here was the original answer to your question. To be more precise on that matter, I sent an email to Carolyn on the 30th of april, asking if we could register to http://www.afpnet.org/about_afp. She answered to this email mentionning that she was thinking of hiring Vishal as a contractant, to help on business, fundraising and sponsorship. Vishal intern time was nearly over, she was happy with the work he provided, and we need to replace Danny in some respects. He was living about a week later. She joined his resume. We had a couple of exchange on the matter (salary etc...). I put the issue on the agenda of the following board meeting (2nd of may). Presents were: Eloquence, Anthere, Kat Walsh, Jan-Bart , oscar and mdavis. There was no opposition voiced. The board asked that a job description be provided. Michael recommanded that he be a part time employee rather than a contractant. Why did I announce him ? First because I think it is polite. Second because due to the type of job he will do, it is important the community knows he is part of the staff. For the other answer, please see below. ant -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: business developer hire - whose decision? Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 00:38:39 +0200 From: Florence Devouard <Anthere9(a)yahoo.com> Newsgroups: gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation References: <71cd4dd90705181122r4bb9fe8fgab40b51e7974770c(a)mail.gmail.com> Anthony wrote: > On 5/17/07, Florence Devouard <Anthere9-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w(a)public.gmane.org> wrote: >> We just hired Vishal Pattel as part-time business developer. > > Was this a board resolution, an agreement by consensus of all board > members, or an act made by one or more individuals? > > Looking at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolutions very > quickly, I don't see anything in the headings regarding the hire of a > business developer. > > Anthony This is agreed by board and Carolyn who proposed to hire him. In the future, asap there is an ED, it will be the job of the ED to hire staff (or to delegate hiring to some staff members). The job of the board will only be to hire ED. Ant

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Re: [Foundation-l] business developer hire - whose decision?
by Florence Devouard 19 May '07

19 May '07

Casey Brown wrote: > Also, Stpehen, your point doesn't hold much water. :) The Board is made up > of volunteers, meaning, unlike the office staff, they are for much of the > weekend as well. :) Actually... it is worse than that. Thursday was a day off in France (ascension). Friday was a day where my husband did not work and my kids are not in school. So, I did not do much because everyone is at home and expecting me to cook, clean, play with them and so on. But I did answer to Anthony, but once again, as about 1 email amongst 10, my email did not make it to the Foundation list. I usually check within 5 mn if they appear on the list, but in this case, I forgot. I forwarded my answer, plus more details in another email. I sent 3 emails, only 2 got through. Ant > And to Anthony, yes, I do believe I said something about this being an area > of expertise for the COO. > > Cbrown1023 > > -----Original Message----- > From: foundation-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org > [mailto:foundation-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Anthony > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 8:57 AM > To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] business developer hire - whose decision? > > On 5/19/07, Stephen Bain <stephen.bain(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On 5/19/07, Anthony <wikilegal(a)inbox.org> wrote: >>> Frankly I have no idea why this would be kept such a secret. >> Noone from the Foundation has replied yet, probably because it's the >> weekend. Perhaps everyone should just wait until they do instead of >> arguing in circles with each other. >> > Ant posted two messages to this list after I asked the question. > > However, Erik has now answered it to some extent (idea came from > Carolyn, board apparently informally agreed with it). > > Anthony > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

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[Foundation-l] [Fwd: Re: business developer hire - whose decision?]
by Florence Devouard 19 May '07

19 May '07

I am sorry Anthony, but I actually answered to your question, but the email did not make it to the list. This is something that regularly happens with my emails to the lists, I have no idea why. I asked the tech team, but they have no idea. I find the emails on my sent box, but they do not make their way to the list. I wish I knew... Anyway, here was the original answer to your question. To be more precise on that matter, I sent an email to Carolyn on the 30th of april, asking if we could register to http://www.afpnet.org/about_afp. She answered to this email mentionning that she was thinking of hiring Vishal as a contractant, to help on business, fundraising and sponsorship. Vishal intern time was nearly over, she was happy with the work he provided, and we need to replace Danny in some respects. He was living about a week later. She joined his resume. We had a couple of exchange on the matter (salary etc...). I put the issue on the agenda of the following board meeting (2nd of may). Presents were: Eloquence, Anthere, Kat Walsh, Jan-Bart , oscar and mdavis. There was no opposition voiced. The board asked that a job description be provided. Michael recommanded that he be a part time employee rather than a contractant. Why did I announce him ? First because I think it is polite. Second because due to the type of job he will do, it is important the community knows he is part of the staff. For the other answer, please see below. ant -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: business developer hire - whose decision? Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 00:38:39 +0200 From: Florence Devouard <Anthere9(a)yahoo.com> Newsgroups: gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation References: <71cd4dd90705181122r4bb9fe8fgab40b51e7974770c(a)mail.gmail.com> Anthony wrote: > On 5/17/07, Florence Devouard <Anthere9-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w(a)public.gmane.org> wrote: >> We just hired Vishal Pattel as part-time business developer. > > Was this a board resolution, an agreement by consensus of all board > members, or an act made by one or more individuals? > > Looking at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolutions very > quickly, I don't see anything in the headings regarding the hire of a > business developer. > > Anthony This is agreed by board and Carolyn who proposed to hire him. In the future, asap there is an ED, it will be the job of the ED to hire staff (or to delegate hiring to some staff members). The job of the board will only be to hire ED. Ant

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Re: [Foundation-l] business developer hire - whose decision?
by Rory Stolzenberg 19 May '07

19 May '07

On 5/18/07, Casey Brown <cbrown1023(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > I disagree. We really do not need to know the inner workings and what-not > of hirings. Although, I do admit that yours is a valid question, though I > do not believe it is for the reason you provided. It is a valid question > for the sake of questioning and knowledge's sake, not to be "an informed > voter". > > Cbrown1023 Not true. Wikimedia projects are communities, and the communities should be allowed to know, for the most part, what goes on within the WMF (there are some exceptions of course, like confidential things, business deals that haven't been announced yet, etc, but I don't see how the process of creating a new position requires confidentiality).

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[Foundation-l] business developer hire - whose decision?
by Anthony 19 May '07

19 May '07

On 5/17/07, Florence Devouard <Anthere9(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > We just hired Vishal Pattel as part-time business developer. Was this a board resolution, an agreement by consensus of all board members, or an act made by one or more individuals? Looking at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolutions very quickly, I don't see anything in the headings regarding the hire of a business developer. Anthony

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[Foundation-l] Wikinews and invitations to events
by David Gerard 19 May '07

19 May '07

As a UK media contact for Wikimedia, so I get all sorts of stuff in my email. One I just got was for a demonstration/picket to be held in London soon, from the group protesting. Let's assume I'm unable to make it to cover it myself ... is there anywhere to put these things for those who may be interested in going out with a notepad and camera? (I asked on the Water Cooler, but I have no idea if anyone is reading it.) - d.

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