The day before yesterday I got a call to talk about cultural policy
and Internet in Serbia tomorrow. Today I realized that it is a good
idea to ask other people about the ideas. So, even there is not enough
of time for discussion, please send your ideas. Text of my "ask
Slashdot" is below.
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Tomorrow I will talk about cultural policy and Internet in Serbia with
representatives of Serbian ministry for culture, the City of Belgrade
and a couple of important organizations which focus is somewhere
between society and Internet. It will be some kind of open meeting, I
expect no more then 100 people in the audience. Talk is organized by
South East Europe Portal for Culture and Art[1] and Ebart
consulting[2] (didn't find page in English for the last one).
You may guess that there is no relation between cultural policy of
Serbia and Internet. However, some people are trying to change the
situation and I think that they should get help from local people who
are living on the Internet for a long time.
There is, also, one big trap here. I don't see a lot of differences
between "cultural policy" and "nationalist policy". So, I wouldn't
like to talk about "promotion of Serbia on the Internet", but about
making good conditions in Serbia for independent free speech,
spreading free knowledge, free software etc.
However, I am a little bit tired of more then a decade long fight for
computerization, Internetization, freesoftwareization,
freeknowledgization in Serbia. And I don't have a lot of ideas what to
talk with them. Because of that I prefer to become a medium for yours
and others good ideas.
The meeting is at 12:00 CEST. I have to be there at 11:30, which means
that I would be able to analyze your responses up to 9:00 CEST. Thanks
a lot for any kind of useful input!
[1] - http://www.seecult.org/english/
[2] - http://www.arhiv.co.yu/
A minor point: http://wikixp.org/qa/index.php5/Litmus_test now states
"sighted for vandalism"
I suggest to skip the word vandalism. It may entice even more people to poke
some 'fun', or work as an invitation to try even harder.
Somewhat like putting a notice on your bicycle "his bicycle is theft proof".
Perhaps use 'Current revision, screened"
Erik Zachte
Well I sent the older e-mail I circulated around to the lawyer and
Sandy, as per what Erik suggested, but so far, no reply. The thing about
it is, someone from the foundation has to sign us up.
The consensus on the Wikinews-l list is that we would like to at least
give it a shot.
Here is the YouTube link again:
http://youtube.com/nonprofits
Jason Safoutin
over at
http://www.nonprofittechblog.org/philanthropy-and-nonprofit-top-25-list-oct…
I was wondering if Wikimedia could use the Quantcast Javascript tag so I
would be able to track Wikimedia's URLs in real-time. If that's not possble,
it would be great if the Foundation simply just released the web site
statistics for all its URLs.
It would be a great service for the nonprofit sector if this could be done
as many nonprofit marketers are still trying to understand the effects of
Web 2.0 on our sector and would love to have hard data.
>Leon has been away for some time. Remember that almost everybody is a
>volunteer and volunteers generally take longer than paid people.
I say "I am looking for a solution to this problem". You (general you) say "Leon already has a solution to this problem". I say "I've sent him a message and gotten no response". You say "He is a volunteer and can't be expected to help in a timely manner". I say "I am still looking for a solution to this problem".
Circular discussions aside, it appears the problem has been resolved. Thanks to Leon and anybody else who helped with this.
--Andrew Whitworth
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May be of interest...
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From: Larry Sanger <sanger-lists(a)citizendium.org>
Date: Oct 3, 2007 2:59 PM
Subject: [Citizendium-l] SharedKnowing: invitation to join a new discussion
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To: CZ Main <citizendium-l(a)lists.purdue.edu>
PLEASE POST AS WIDELY AS POSSIBLE ON MAILING LISTS, FORUMS,
BLOGS...THIS WILL PROBABLY BE OF INTEREST TO MANY.
Dear All,
I'd like to invite you to join an old-fashioned discussion list,
SharedKnowledge:
http://tinyurl.com/2cqwm3
This unmoderated (or semi-moderated) list will be devoted to well-reasoned,
polite discussion and announcements about the nature of online knowledge
production communities. It is open to everyone. I hope it might become a
central clearing-house of general information and free, open, yet polite
discussion about a cluster of issues that are of great interest to many
people, and of growing importance to society at large.
See http://tinyurl.com/2cqwm3 for more info. There, I have explained:
* Purpose of the list
* How to subscribe and unsubscribe
* How to post
* When will the discussion start?
* Who should join
* Core and example questions
* Relevant and irrelevant Internet communities/websites
* Other encouraged posts
* Subjects that will be deemed off-topic
* List rules
* List Management
To give people time to arrive, discussion will start in a few weeks.
I'm starting this list for several reasons. First, as a scholar (of sorts)
and project organizer, I have an active, practical interest in these topics.
Second, as I write and prepare speeches (something I'm doing a lot these
days), I would like to have a big group of knowledgeable, like-minded
friends to bounce ideas off of. Finally, quite honestly, I miss good
old-fashioned discussion lists. Back in the 90s, I ran several, and one of
them, ASP-Disc, was really great. I'd like to replicate that sort of lively
community.
Again, please post this message as widely as possible!
Regards
Larry Sanger
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>Sending complete logging information on our visitors to a third party
>would still be an absolute violation of our privacy policy, so probably
>a no-no. :)
>The opt-in-only experiments are at least interesting, though, and should
>give people a taste for what kind of aggregate info we can make use of.
Exactly, this is only an experiment and we will gather useful information from it whether we try and push things to a new level or not. Many book authors have been crying for some time now for a way to get some readership statistics about their books. The idea of enabling page hit counters has been brought up and shot down on a regular basis. We've applied for an account to the page counter on the toolserver but with no reply.
>I think it'd be a lot nicer to do the tracking for all pages and all
>books, from our in-house logging system. All hits to the HTTP proxies
>are logged, and this log stream is available internally in its entirety
The issue of enabling page counters has been brought up before on bugzilla. See http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5667 for one example. It's not that we aren't looking for an in-house solution, but it seems like most options have been exhausted. I would be thrilled to learn that there was an in-house logging mechanism available to us to use. We know that one doesnt currently exist in a usable form, and that the techs have more important things to do then throw one together for us.
--Andrew Whitworth
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just heard an odd thing from a peer @ the high school
I work at.
"Many major universities have blocked wikipedia"
thought I would throw it out to the community and get
a bit of direction to research - I find the
possibility odd.
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