Wikimedia-l November 2005

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[Foundation-l] Swiss Wikipedians Meeting Zurich 13 November 2005
by Michael Bimmler 03 Nov '05

03 Nov '05

*** This message is crossposted to several lists, if there are responses, please direct them to Wikimediach-l (even if you're not subscribed). Thank you!*** French version below Dear Wikipedians, we'd like to invite you to the Swiss Wikipedians Meeting in Zurich. The main topic will be the discussion of the foundation of Wikimedia Switzerland, the Swiss local chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation. The meeting will be at November 13th, 2.00 pm (Swiss time) in the "Schweizerische Epilepsie-Zentrum", Zurich. A more detailed description of the meeting, including a description of how to get there, may be found at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CH/Meeting_Zurich_13_November_2005<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Schweiz/International>(in German, English, French and Italian). Mineral water and some snacks (chips etc.) will be provided. We look forward to seeing you! Kind regards, Michael Bimmler Nando Stöcklin Jürg Studer Cher wikipédiens, Nous souhaiterions vous inviter à la réunion des Wikipédiens suisses qui se tiendra à Zurich. Le but principal de cette réunion est de discuter de la mise en place d'une association suisse (Wikimedia CH), aassociation fille de la Fondation Wikimedia. La réunion aura lieu à Zurich le 13 novembre 2005 à 14.00h au "Schweizerisches Epilepsie-Zentrum". Une description plus détaillée de la rencontre, ainsi que les indications pour s'y rendre, se trouve sur http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CH/Meeting_Zurich_13_November_2005… allemand, anglais, français et italien). Eau minérales et chips au programme. Nous vous attendons avec impatience. A très bientôt. Michael Bimmler Nando Stöcklin Jürg Studer

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[Foundation-l] Requests for bot status
by Dariusz Siedlecki 03 Nov '05

03 Nov '05

Just wanted to notify the Wikimedia community, that [[Requests for bot status]] on Meta was created a few minutes ago. Of course, [[Requests for permissions]] is still active - please put all the requests for sysop/bureaucrat status on that page. Nothing has changed with the current bot policy besides that. Please update the local request pages on your Wikis to reflect the page change on Meta. -- Pozdrawiam, Dariusz "Datrio" Siedlecki

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[Foundation-l] check user policy
by Anthere 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

As a reminder, a check user policy is being worked out on meta. You may find it here : http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposed_CheckUser_Policy Though the opinion of many was seeked out, rather few people commented. Which might mean approval or disapproval. I just do *not* really know. On the other hand, amongst the comments this proposed policy got : * if this policy goes live, horrible things will happen * give me checkuser access now, we need it anyway * you are too slow in doing this policy and blocking the process. I am a bit pissed off :-) So, what I propose is a 7 days approval. If there is support or no comments at all (or minor constructive comments) within 7 days, this policy will go live. If comments such "horrible things will happen" or equivalent comments are made, I will simply put that policy in the *trash*. The policy which will then go live until *someone else* works on a general policy, will be very simple : you ask Jimbo (and Jimbo only) (I am sure he will hate it so much that it will not last long anyway) Anthere

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Re: [Foundation-l] stewards and bot flagging
by Mihai Floran 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

In this case we have to possible solutions: 1. Somebody will write the necesary interface so that bureaurcats may add bot flags. My idea for this is that Meta MakeSysop interface may be transfered to bureaucrats with limited groups. (just Sysop, Bureaucrat and Bot flag - for now) 2. We shall have - as I already proposed in a discution at meta - a new election for stewards which can help the existent ones in their job. Most of them have many things to do and no time for this kind of issues and at least one of elected stewards in may is not and was not active. There are many unsolved requests at meta and persons must wait a lot of time for a steward to have time to answer to their request. M

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[Foundation-l] Sideline on the China issue .... Thai minister praises China's mediacontrol
by Walter van Kalken 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

Will Thailand be the next country Wikipedia gets blocked in? Thailand recently slipped on a mediafreedom list published by a Paris based mediawatchdog from 50 something to 100 something. A slip of 50 places. Thailand now ranks behind Cambodia! On that list. Thaksin (our beloved despot) said he couldn't believe it as the Thai press was free according to him. Today these 2 messages were in the press: From:www.2bangkok.com: *The real harm to country's image <http://www.bangkokpost.com/News/01Nov2005_news17.php>* /Bangkok Post/, November 1, 2005 [This is the kind of tough editorial that used to only be in /The Nation/.] /...Proof of that, if any were needed, was supplied by the minister himself in a report by the government's official mouthpiece, Radio Thailand. Mr Suranand, just back from a trip to China, told the radio service he praised the Chinese system of media control extensively, and apparently had not a word to say about the official protection of press freedom in Thailand. Mr Suranand said he was strongly impressed with China's ``state-of-art technology system'' which is used to monitor citizens, control the media and block access to thousands of internet websites which the Chinese find inconveniently democratic, including several in Thailand. According to Mr Suranand, some media ``make problems for society'' and he signed an agreement with China to cooperate on this issue. Mr Suranand made no attempt to defend his country's democratic system and constitutional protection of free speech and press. Instead, he publicly agreed with the statements of his hosts, who represent a dictatorship with no pretence of press freedom. He agreed with the Chinese that the government should ``play a more important role in examining the members of the press who trigger problems to the society''. That seems a good reason to downgrade Thailand's press freedom and harm Thailand's image yet again. The climate of harassment is well known. Last year, police in the South invited reporters to a news conference on the Tak Bai homicides, then locked them in the room and demanded notes, photos and video footage. Mr Thaksin has claimed several times that the press is hurting the image of the country by certain news coverage or commentary. On the contrary, it is clear the government is harming the country's image abroad by creating an environment of badgering that has caused a huge loss of respect for Thai media independence. And it is using state agencies, including security forces, to help... /From:www.2bangkok.com: /*Thairath */(translation of Thai newspaper articles)/* *After the by-election in four areas and knowing the official vote, the opposition parties are happy that opposition MPs now reach 125. This means they will be able to call no-confidence debates on ministers concerning corruption issues. Meanwhile Thaksin Shinawatra said during his mobile cabinet meeting at Nakornsawan Province that Nakornsawan is the province that trusts TRT and select all TRT MPs so this province will get privileges to help specifically. Provinces that trust TRT less will be helped later in a queue. He said this frankly and revealed to the media what he thought. /

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[Foundation-l] Sideline on the China issue .... Thai minister praises China's mediacontrol
by Walter van Kalken 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

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[Foundation-l] Russian Wikinews
by Angela 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

The Russian Wikinews has now been created by Erik following requests at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Start_a_new_edition and the previous announcement on foundation-l. http://ru.wikinews.org/ The next edition is expected to be Hebrew. Angela.

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[Foundation-l] Vlax Romany Wikipedia
by Mihai Floran 01 Nov '05

01 Nov '05

At http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Requests_for_new_languages/Vlax_Rom… there is a request with 10 users supporting and no oppose for the creation of Vlax Romany Wikipedia. There was also a survey at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Vlax_Romany_Survey in which some native speakers and persons which know the language added themselfs. The results for a week are: 7 readers, 5 writers and 3 native speakers. Almost all of them are from Romania as territory. There is also a First Page almost translated at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Test-wp/rmy/

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Re: [Foundation-l] stewards and bot flagging
by Mihai Floran 01 Nov '05

01 Nov '05

>> there is currently no interface for bureaucrats to be able to do this But is not imposible to have it!

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[Foundation-l] Vlax Romany Wikipedia
by Mihai Floran 01 Nov '05

01 Nov '05

At http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages#Vlax_Romany_.2810… there is a request with 10 users supporting and no oppose for the creation of Vlax Romany Wikipedia. There was also a survey at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Vlax_Romany_Survey in which some native speakers and persons which know the language added themselfs. The results for a week are: 7 readers, 5 writers and 3 native speakers. Almost all of them are from Romania as territory. There is also a First Page almost translated at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Test-wp/rmy/

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