http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/How_to_use_or_reuse_our_content
If any of you have a bit of time for this, please help
building that page with all the information currently
available accross all our projects, so that a common
page exist which would could make it available on the
Foundation website.
The idea is to make something quite clear, to which we
could point out for any major reuser of our content.
Thanks in advance
Ant
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Hi!
A friend of mine is searching for a quote of Jimbo meantioning that
Wikipedia or Wikimedia is not political. Maybe Jimbo said something like
this during the Politics of Wikimedia panel at Wikimania or related to
comparing Wikimedia with the Red Cross or it's because something with
tax in the US. Does anybody has a quote with a source?
In my opinion every encyclopaedia is politic; Jean-Baptiste Soufron
wrote about "The political importance of the Wikipedia Project" [1]:
"It seemed to me that, first of all, a real encyclopedia should be a
place directed toward a political project of its own, and not only
toward some sort of simple scientific dictionnary project."
There is several distinct questions:
1. Is Wikipedia politic?
2. Does the community think that Wikipedia is politic
3. Is Wikimedia Foundation a politic organisation?
I think the answer to the first question is "yes", the answer to the
second is "some do, some don't" and the answer to the third is "no"
(isn't it?) - but how do you explain the difference in the answers?
Greetings,
Jakob
[1] http://soufron.free.fr/soufron-spip/article.php3?id_article=71
P.S: Mathias pointed me to two German newspaper articles that also
mention politics and Wikipedia - but you know that you cannot believe
everything that journalists write, especially when there is only a
German translation and no original quote of who said what:
http://www.faz.net/s/Rub4C34FD0B1A7E46B88B0653D6358499FF/Doc~E197429C561064…http://www.weltexpress.info/index.php?artikel_id=983&rubrik=5&lan=de
(This mail goes to wikipedia-l and foundation-l just as an announce. I
assume that we should talk at mediawiki-l mailing list.)
We are at the end of the first phase. Brane Jelisavcic finalized
Zhengzhu's work. It is working now on
http://conversion.vikimedija.org/ (using MediaWiki 1.5rc4). If anyone
has some questions about that, please, ask it here because Brane reads
this list.
We want to implement this extension on Serbian Wikipedia. What should
we do for that? (I.e., is it enough to ask here, or we should ask for
it somewhere else?)
After the implementation of this part, we would start to work on the
next phase (read-write access to all variants).
I am currently writing an application to manage my movie collection, and
looked around for online sources I can use to aid me in entering movie
information. I found amazon, which has a nice SOAP interface to their
DVD section. Then I looked at IMDB, which AFAIK is owned by amazon as
well, only to discover that they
* charge for database access /starting at $10000/
* explicly forbid HTML scraping
I remembered Jimbos 10-point-speech at Wikimaina. "Free the TV
programs"? Maybe we should free the movie information as well.
A wiki site based on WikiData (how's it going, BTW?;-) would be ideal to
do this. It would
* provide information for all the wikipedias
* provide information for the fre TV program listings :-)
* prove information for applications like the one I'm working on
For such a service, I would volunteer to integrate an upload function
into my software, making it possible to gather/write movie information
within the software and then upload it to WikiVideos (tm).
So, how about it? Or is there some large, free (in both ways) online
database that I've missed?
Magnus
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, Jimmy Wales wrote:
> > == The famous "IBM-5-minutes-vandalism"-myth ==
>
> I always say it like this:
>
> "For certain types of vandalism which were easy to identify
> algorithmically, the median time for reversion is under 5 minutees."
Or "was, as of late 2003, under 5 minutes."
There is hope they will update the study. Fernanda Viegas has left the
media lab to take a post at IBM, so she and Martin W. may do a reprise.
Speaking of which: what is the fastest way to get a full db dump?
Is there a "please mail me a hard-drive" option?
SJ
Hello
Last week I was in South Africa for the second Floss and Free Knowledge
Workshop. I put a summary/report about the conference here :
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Conference_reports/FLOSS%2C_South_Africa_200…
I am also planning to add in the next few days/weeks on meta
* the powerpoint of the presentation I did there (focused on Wikiversity)
* 3-4 of the presentations I found most interesting for some of the
issues we are trying to explore (such as some about Africa and use of
Floss or others about Publishing)
* A summary of the conclusions reached during the workshop.
I was very happy to meet as well during this trip, Alias from South
Africa, as well as 7-8 people in Amsterdam.
Cheers
Anthere
Hello everyone
During the past few weeks, I have reflected on what should be the future of Quarto and how the Wikimedia Foundation main page could be refactored. Both Quarto and the main page have been launched a year ago now, so it was high time to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of both and to see what could be done to keep the best of both systems.
So, what I propose is that Quarto disappear and will be somehow merged in the Foundation website. Ill try to create the main page as I perceive it in the next few days (from a structural perspective). It will be easier to "show" than to try to explain with words. But please comment !
When I am roughly done, I would like some feedback from anyone on it, we can changed it together, and it will naturally have to be approved by Angela, Jimbo, Tim and Michael. If no one likes it, well.... we'll go back to the old one or will do something else :-)
During a third phase, I would be glad of some help to improve it from a ergonomic point of view, add some colors, icons because I am really not very good at that ;-)
We could then translate it if some people are willing to help. Please do not until things are a bit more fixed.
Hopefully, we could do something which would keep the good sides of Quarto, while removing or lessening the defaults.
Anthere
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Hello all,
As some of you know, some editors will participate to the WSIS at the
end of the year in Tunis.
It seems relevant that some leaflets are provided in several languages,
about our projects. The 6 official languages of the UNO are English,
French, Spanish, Arabic, Russian and Chinese.
English and French are certainly essential :-) (uh !)
Arabic and Spanich will be useful. And would not it be great to cover
Russian and Chinese as well ? (I am a bit optimistic here).
We already have a couple of these languages, but not all of them.
The languages we have are possibly outdated (most were done early 2005)
so would benefit of a little update of figures at least.
But we definitly need help in SPANISH, ARABIC, CHINESE and RUSSIAN.
So, if you know any of these languages, please consider dropping by
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Leaflet
AND please copy this message in your respective village pumps.
You can help by doing an entirely new leaflet OR just by translating the
text on wiki (and someone else will update that on his computer)
Please HELP
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Additionnaly, there is something I have been thinking of, but which
might be a little bit more difficult to do, or controversial.... so I
would like opinion on this, and help if this is supported.
I have been thinking it would maybe make sense to have another type of
leaflet (in english for now) where we could try to rather introduce, not
projects as in current leaflets, but more the concept, and in particular
the concept of freedom of speech, benefits of free information, free
software etc... maybe as well put some stuff about free licences (and a
bit of explanation on which licence we use, and which we do not use, and
why and which implications there is on how people can reuse our
content). And possibly introduce some of the partnerships we are looking
for ?
In short, that is a bit more political than we usually do; but that
might fit the WSIS stuff. It is just using words instead of showing what
we do. So... I might hear just a plain NO, but I would be happy to know
what people think and if that seems feasible and just wise (or unwise).
Anthere