Thanks to Biswarup da, to take such an effort in going and talking to them. I really wish it would've actually happened. Would've loved to meet the Kolkata Community and conduct such a major outreach in my home city.
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay <debastein@gmail.com
wrote:
That is really disappointing. Thank you Jayanta da, in any case for trying so hard. You have been totally awesome and I hope we can do some major outreach other than the Book Fair.
-- Regards, Debanjan
- Lets make this world a better and more informative place*
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Biswarup Ganguly < gangulybiswarup@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Jayanta,
This is to inform you that as no communication has been received from the ‘Publisher’s and Book-seller’s Guild’, Kolkata, regarding the proposed ‘Wikipedia Stall’ for the ‘Kolkata Book Fair 2012’, I went to the Guild office today evening to know the status of stall distribution.
I met Mr. Ramen Guha, senior member, the Guild, I told our activities and purpose for the stall, and he says that in this fair about 70 to 80 stalls will be reduced this year as Mr. Jogen Chowdhury, the official planner of ‘Kolkata Book Fair 2012’ planned the layout and in this limited space, it is not possible to accommodate our stall as he termed us as ‘late applicant’.
I again explained the non-commercial, social usefulness, voluntary participation etc. then he replied that they can accommodate only against Rs. 2,00,000/- (Rupees Two Lakhs) only for 100 sq. m of stall space.
I took time from him and he asked us to keep touch with them.
Regards,
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Kalyan Sarkar <kalyan.sarkar@gmail.com
wrote:
Thank you Hisham. Thank you for your continued support to the Kolkata community. Lets make this event a grand success!
Thanks and regards, Kalyan Sarkar
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Hisham hisham@wikimedia.org wrote:
Thank you very much for your detailed comments, Kalyan. Read through
them
and agree fully. My queries were not so much queries but ideas for
you
to
consider (and maybe incorporate into your grant application.)
You folks will know best how to run it - and you're absolutely right
that
we need to adapt to the environment. I'm sure there will be some
tweaking
that will be required - but like all your ideas!
I'm also sure that a lot of preparatory work will be done prior to the fair and a lot of the ideas will get finalised only then.
As I've mentioned before, do let us know any help you need whatsoever. We'd also love to attend some part of the book fair and meet up with
as
many of you as possible.
Warm Regards,
hisham
On Dec 6, 2011, at 12:13 AM, Kalyan Sarkar wrote:
Hisham,
Please allow me to reply to your queries one by one.
Firstly, yes, we are thinking along the lines of having two separate programmes - one for the outreach and other for the editing.
However,
we
have to keep in mind that we would be getting only 9 square meters
space.
We'll not have the comfort of serene indoors like we had in Mumbai,
or
what
we have at our workshops in Kolkata. Invariably, there would be some
noise.
In my view, it would be rather difficult to conduct our usual
sessions
with
projectors and slides. Its would be somewhat awkward to arrange 20
odd
chairs and a projector and expect an audience to build up for a
session.
Rather we should have as much navigable space as possible for the
visitors.
I believe we need to adapt ourselves to suit the environment. For
our
outreach programme, we'll have small video clips in the TV
explaining
what
Wikipedia is all about. I believe we already have such videos on the YouTube. We'll show clips from Wiki Conference at Mumbai and clips
from
Jimmy's speeches. We'll host a photo gallery on a portion of a wall.
We'll
hand every person who visits the stall, an introductory leaflet on Wikipedia and a Wikipedia sticker. We'll have a volunteer who can
always
explain the basic outreach stuff about Wikipedia to inquisitive
visitors.
As it would be difficult to hold workshops per se, for the editing programme too, we'll show video clips explaining how to make an edit
and
encourage the crowd to make instant edits. We'll have a couple of
laptops
ready for them to use and a volunteer who would be there to help
them
out.
Anybody who makes a successful edit would be rewarded with a small
token
incentive. It would help to draw the crowd, especially youngsters
from
schools and colleges.
We'll require the following equipments.
- Laptops - 2 nos.
- 44" LCD/Plasma TV
- Sound system
- Internet connection (Wi-Fi / Data card)
- Furniture for a counter + 4 chairs
One sure way to get in touch with the visitors is to arrange a lucky
draw
and ask them to fill up a small form with contact info and drop it
in a
box. Additionally we can offer spot memberships, accept donations or
ask
them to sign up a guestbook. Our basic leaflet for outreach shall
have
our
contact information, both national and local contacts and details of
our
next workshop in Kolkata.
Lastly, I feel that we should also try to sell some of our
merchandise,
which could be T shirts, promotional DVDs etc.
Please let us know what you think.
Thanks and regards, Kalyan Sarkar
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Hisham hisham@wikimedia.org
wrote:
I think this is a great idea and I'd like to volunteer help in
preparing
the formal grant application if required. Do let me know.
I'd also suggest the following modifications / additions
a) Can we speak to the organisers and see if they can get this at a discounted rate - given WMF is a non-profit and the mission of WMF? b) A really important part of the event is the benefits it will
provide
to
the Wikimedia community / movement. In Mumbai, we had informal
discussions
on what all could be done. These included whether there could be 2 separate elements - one which would be basic introductory outreach
(What is
Wikipedia? Did you know there is an Bengali Wikipedia? How does
Wikipedia
content get on Wikipedia? Did you know you can edit? Would you
like
to
edit? Why should you edit? How can you edit?) and a series of
editing
workshops for those interested in taking things forward. These
workshops
could be run in both Bengali and English. Can we also flesh out
the
details of how the event will actually be conducted? What will happen in what part of the stall? Will there be a section on introductory outreach and one for
introductory
editing? How many sessions will be conducted? What equipment
(chairs,
projector, laptop, internet, etc. will be required? Who will
conduct
which
sessions? How will these sessions be scheduled? What will happen in these sessions? How will they be conducted?
How
many
people can attend? Is there any material that will be required
(e.g.,
presentation material, brochures, etc.) How will we stay in touch in with folks who come and attend either
basic
outreach sessions or basic introductory workshops?
Do let me know any assistance you need. I'd be more than happy to
help
out.
Would also be nice to discuss some of these things over a g+ /
skype /
phone call?
Best
hisham
On Dec 2, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Biswarup Ganguly wrote:
> Dear Kalyan, > > Thank you for your detail proposal of hiring sound system and
stickers
> and/or caps, T-shirts etc. You are right that we need broad band > connection or data card whichever is available for running the
live
> edits, teach and show throughout the exhibition. > > Regards. > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Kalyan Sarkar <
kalyan.sarkar@gmail.com>
wrote: >> Dear Biswarup da, >> >> We need the sound system to assist the promotional videos that we
would
run >> on the TV as well as promotional events like spot edit/quiz
contests.
The >> promotional videos could either be extracts from Jimmy's
inspiring
>> speeches, clips from Wiki Conference India or small video
tutorials
on
how >> to make the first edit. We can also hold spot edit contests,
where a
random >> person is selected from the crowd to make an edit. If that is a
fair
edit, >> we hand him/her a prize. We can also hold spot quiz contests,
where
the
>> correct answer gets the prize. The prize could be a T shirt. In
order
to
>> organize such promotional events, we need a sound system. >> >> I also think, we need internet connection or data card whichever
is
>> applicable. >> >> For promotional purposes we can also think of stickers and/or
paper
caps
>> (sun guards) with Wikipedia logo. We can also sell the surplus T
shirts
>> from the Wiki Conference India programme or other merchandise if
any.
>> >> Thanks and regards, >> Kalyan Sarkar >> >> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Biswarup Ganguly >> gangulybiswarup@gmail.comwrote: >> >>> Dear Jayanta, >>> >>> It seems to be fine as a starting point of the 'Budget' to me
but
how
>>> the sound system be used there? >>> >>> Regards. >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Jayanta Nath <
jayantanth@gmail.com
wrote: >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> I am submitting tentative budget breakup for this event... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Item* >>>> >>>> * Cost in Rs * >>>> >>>> >>>> 1 >>>> >>>> Stall Booking @9 sqm >>>> >>>> Rs 60,000.00 >>>> >>>> 2 >>>> >>>> Stall decoration >>>> >>>> Rs 15,000.00 >>>> >>>> 3 >>>> >>>> Furniture Rent >>>> >>>> Rs 5,000.00 >>>> >>>> 4 >>>> >>>> Plasma TV 44” With Stand >>>> With DVD Player >>>> >>>> Rs 15,000.00 >>>> >>>> 5 >>>> >>>> Laptop rent >>>> >>>> Rs 6,000.00 >>>> >>>> 6 >>>> >>>> Sound system >>>> >>>> Rs 10,000.00 >>>> >>>> 7 >>>> >>>> Transportation >>>> >>>> Rs 5,000.00 >>>> >>>> 8 >>>> >>>> Food@Rs1000/day >>>> >>>> Rs 12,000.00 >>>> >>>> 9 >>>> >>>> Leaflet >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Bengali FAQ@10000 Nos >>>> >>>> Rs 20,000.00 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Bengali Promotion >>>> >>>> Rs 2,000.00 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> English Wikipedia >>>> >>>> Rs 2,000.00 >>>> >>>> 10 >>>> >>>> Hire staff/bearer >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> @ Rs 500@12 days >>>> >>>> Rs 6,000.00 >>>> >>>> 11 >>>> >>>> Banner >>>> >>>> Rs 2,000.00 >>>> >>>> 12 >>>> >>>> other incidentals >>>> >>>> Rs 10,000.00 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Rs 170,000.00 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> $ 3,296.05 >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert/?Amount=1&From=INR&To=USD >>>> >>>> Please I would request to every of Bengali/Kolkata community,add/modify >>> or >>>> expand as requirement above Budget breakup. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Asaf Bartov <
abartov@wikimedia.org
>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi. >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps you should correct Mr Tapas: we belong in the >>> education/reference >>>>> sector, not the IT sector. And we are non-profit. >>>>> >>>>> It is a good idea to remind our partners that although we're
based
on
>>>>> Internet projects, we are not at all *about* the Internet, but
about
>>> free >>>>> knowledge, and the creation and dissemination thereof. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Asaf >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 26, 2011 12:10 AM, "Biswarup Ganguly" < gangulybiswarup@gmail.com >>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> As the types of our organisation the Wikipedia >>>>>> goes in IT category. They will provide only the space noting
else!
>>>>>