Re: [Wikimedia-in-WB] Proposal: Wikipedia participation at 'Kolkata Book Fair 2012'

-- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Biswarup Ganguly <gangulybiswarup@gmail.com > wrote: > Dear Jayanta, > > > This is to inform you that as no communication has been received from the > ‘Publisher’s and Book-seller’s Guild’, Kolkata, regarding the proposed > ‘Wikipedia Stall’ for the ‘Kolkata Book Fair 2012’, I went to the Guild > office today evening to know the status of stall distribution. > > > I met Mr. Ramen Guha, senior member, the Guild, I told our activities and > purpose for the stall, and he says that in this fair about 70 to 80 stalls > will be reduced this year as Mr. Jogen Chowdhury, the official planner of > ‘Kolkata Book Fair 2012’ planned the layout and in this limited space, it > is not possible to accommodate our stall as he termed us as ‘late > applicant’. > > > I again explained the non-commercial, social usefulness, voluntary > participation etc. then he replied that they can accommodate only against > Rs. 2,00,000/- (Rupees Two Lakhs) only for 100 sq. m of stall space. > > > I took time from him and he asked us to keep touch with them. > > > Regards, > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Kalyan Sarkar <kalyan.sarkar@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > Thank you Hisham. Thank you for your continued support to the Kolkata > > community. Lets make this event a grand success! > > > > Thanks and regards, > > Kalyan Sarkar > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Hisham hisham@wikimedia.org wrote: > > > > > Thank you very much for your detailed comments, Kalyan. Read through > > them > > > and agree fully. My queries were not so much queries but ideas for you > > to > > > consider (and maybe incorporate into your grant application.) > > > > > > You folks will know best how to run it - and you're absolutely right > that > > > we need to adapt to the environment. I'm sure there will be some > > tweaking > > > that will be required - but like all your ideas! > > > > > > I'm also sure that a lot of preparatory work will be done prior to the > > > fair and a lot of the ideas will get finalised only then. > > > > > > As I've mentioned before, do let us know any help you need whatsoever. > > > We'd also love to attend some part of the book fair and meet up with > as > > > many of you as possible. > > > > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > hisham > > > > > > On Dec 6, 2011, at 12:13 AM, Kalyan Sarkar wrote: > > > > > > > Hisham, > > > > > > > > Please allow me to reply to your queries one by one. > > > > > > > > Firstly, yes, we are thinking along the lines of having two separate > > > > programmes - one for the outreach and other for the editing. However, > > we > > > > have to keep in mind that we would be getting only 9 square meters > > space. > > > > We'll not have the comfort of serene indoors like we had in Mumbai, > or > > > what > > > > we have at our workshops in Kolkata. Invariably, there would be some > > > noise. > > > > In my view, it would be rather difficult to conduct our usual > sessions > > > with > > > > projectors and slides. Its would be somewhat awkward to arrange 20 > odd > > > > chairs and a projector and expect an audience to build up for a > > session. > > > > Rather we should have as much navigable space as possible for the > > > visitors. > > > > > > > > I believe we need to adapt ourselves to suit the environment. For our > > > > outreach programme, we'll have small video clips in the TV explaining > > > what > > > > Wikipedia is all about. I believe we already have such videos on the > > > > YouTube. We'll show clips from Wiki Conference at Mumbai and clips > from > > > > Jimmy's speeches. We'll host a photo gallery on a portion of a wall. > > > We'll > > > > hand every person who visits the stall, an introductory leaflet on > > > > Wikipedia and a Wikipedia sticker. We'll have a volunteer who can > > always > > > > explain the basic outreach stuff about Wikipedia to inquisitive > > visitors. > > > > > > > > As it would be difficult to hold workshops per se, for the editing > > > > programme too, we'll show video clips explaining how to make an edit > > and > > > > encourage the crowd to make instant edits. We'll have a couple of > > laptops > > > > ready for them to use and a volunteer who would be there to help them > > > out. > > > > Anybody who makes a successful edit would be rewarded with a small > > token > > > > incentive. It would help to draw the crowd, especially youngsters > from > > > > schools and colleges. > > > > > > > > We'll require the following equipments. > > > > 1. Laptops - 2 nos. > > > > 2. 44" LCD/Plasma TV > > > > 3. Sound system > > > > 4. Internet connection (Wi-Fi / Data card) > > > > 5. Furniture for a counter + 4 chairs > > > > > > > > One sure way to get in touch with the visitors is to arrange a lucky > > draw > > > > and ask them to fill up a small form with contact info and drop it > in a > > > > box. Additionally we can offer spot memberships, accept donations or > > ask > > > > them to sign up a guestbook. Our basic leaflet for outreach shall > have > > > our > > > > contact information, both national and local contacts and details of > > our > > > > next workshop in Kolkata. > > > > > > > > Lastly, I feel that we should also try to sell some of our > merchandise, > > > > which could be T shirts, promotional DVDs etc. > > > > > > > > Please let us know what you think. > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > Kalyan Sarkar > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Hisham hisham@wikimedia.org wrote: > > > > > > > >> I think this is a great idea and I'd like to volunteer help in > > preparing > > > >> the formal grant application if required. Do let me know. > > > >> > > > >> I'd also suggest the following modifications / additions > > > >> > > > >> a) Can we speak to the organisers and see if they can get this at a > > > >> discounted rate - given WMF is a non-profit and the mission of WMF? > > > >> b) A really important part of the event is the benefits it will > > provide > > > to > > > >> the Wikimedia community / movement. In Mumbai, we had informal > > > discussions > > > >> on what all could be done. These included whether there could be 2 > > > >> separate elements - one which would be basic introductory outreach > > > (What is > > > >> Wikipedia? Did you know there is an Bengali Wikipedia? How does > > > Wikipedia > > > >> content get on Wikipedia? Did you know you can edit? Would you like > > to > > > >> edit? Why should you edit? How can you edit?) and a series of > > editing > > > >> workshops for those interested in taking things forward. These > > > workshops > > > >> could be run in both Bengali and English. Can we also flesh out > the > > > >> details of how the event will actually be conducted? > > > >> What will happen in what part of the stall? > > > >> Will there be a section on introductory outreach and one for > > > introductory > > > >> editing? How many sessions will be conducted? What equipment > > (chairs, > > > >> projector, laptop, internet, etc. will be required? Who will > conduct > > > which > > > >> sessions? How will these sessions be scheduled? > > > >> What will happen in these sessions? How will they be conducted? > How > > > many > > > >> people can attend? Is there any material that will be required > (e.g., > > > >> presentation material, brochures, etc.) > > > >> How will we stay in touch in with folks who come and attend either > > basic > > > >> outreach sessions or basic introductory workshops? > > > >> > > > >> Do let me know any assistance you need. I'd be more than happy to > > help > > > >> out. > > > >> > > > >> Would also be nice to discuss some of these things over a g+ / > skype / > > > >> phone call? > > > >> > > > >> Best > > > >> > > > >> hisham > > > >> > > > >> On Dec 2, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Biswarup Ganguly wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Dear Kalyan, > > > >>> > > > >>> Thank you for your detail proposal of hiring sound system and > > stickers > > > >>> and/or caps, T-shirts etc. You are right that we need broad band > > > >>> connection or data card whichever is available for running the live > > > >>> edits, teach and show throughout the exhibition. > > > >>> > > > >>> Regards. > > > >>> > > > >>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Kalyan Sarkar < > > > kalyan.sarkar@gmail.com> > > > >> wrote: > > > >>>> Dear Biswarup da, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> We need the sound system to assist the promotional videos that we > > > would > > > >> run > > > >>>> on the TV as well as promotional events like spot edit/quiz > > contests. > > > >> The > > > >>>> promotional videos could either be extracts from Jimmy's inspiring > > > >>>> speeches, clips from Wiki Conference India or small video > tutorials > > on > > > >> how > > > >>>> to make the first edit. We can also hold spot edit contests, > where a > > > >> random > > > >>>> person is selected from the crowd to make an edit. If that is a > fair > > > >> edit, > > > >>>> we hand him/her a prize. We can also hold spot quiz contests, > where > > > the > > > >>>> correct answer gets the prize. The prize could be a T shirt. In > > order > > > to > > > >>>> organize such promotional events, we need a sound system. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I also think, we need internet connection or data card whichever > is > > > >>>> applicable. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> For promotional purposes we can also think of stickers and/or > paper > > > caps > > > >>>> (sun guards) with Wikipedia logo. We can also sell the surplus T > > > shirts > > > >>>> from the Wiki Conference India programme or other merchandise if > > any. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Thanks and regards, > > > >>>> Kalyan Sarkar > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Biswarup Ganguly > > > >>>> gangulybiswarup@gmail.comwrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> Dear Jayanta, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> It seems to be fine as a starting point of the 'Budget' to me but > > how > > > >>>>> the sound system be used there? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Regards. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Jayanta Nath < > jayantanth@gmail.com > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > >>>>>> Hi > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> I am submitting tentative budget breakup for this event... > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> *Item* > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> * Cost in Rs * > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 1 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Stall Booking @9 sqm > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Rs 60,000.00 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 2 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Stall decoration > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Rs 15,000.00 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 3 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Furniture Rent > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Rs 5,000.00 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 4 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Plasma TV 44” With Stand > > > >>>>>> With DVD Player > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Rs 15,000.00 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 5 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Laptop rent > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Rs 6,000.00 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 6 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Sound system > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Rs 10,000.00 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 7 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Transportation > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Rs 5,000.00 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 8 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Food@Rs1000/day > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Rs 12,000.00 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 9 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Leaflet > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Bengali FAQ@10000 Nos > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Rs 20,000.00 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Bengali Promotion > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Rs 2,000.00 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> English Wikipedia > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Rs 2,000.00 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 10 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Hire staff/bearer > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> @ Rs 500@12 days > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Rs 6,000.00 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 11 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Banner > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Rs 2,000.00 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> 12 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> other incidentals > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Rs 10,000.00 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Rs 170,000.00 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> $ 3,296.05 > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert/?Amount=1&From=INR&To=USD > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Please I would request to every of Bengali/Kolkata > > > >> community,add/modify > > > >>>>> or > > > >>>>>> expand as requirement above Budget breakup. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Asaf Bartov < > > abartov@wikimedia.org > > > > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Hi. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Perhaps you should correct Mr Tapas: we belong in the > > > >>>>> education/reference > > > >>>>>>> sector, not the IT sector. And we are non-profit. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> It is a good idea to remind our partners that although we're > > based > > > on > > > >>>>>>> Internet projects, we are not at all *about* the Internet, but > > > about > > > >>>>> free > > > >>>>>>> knowledge, and the creation and dissemination thereof. > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Cheers, > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Asaf > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> On Nov 26, 2011 12:10 AM, "Biswarup Ganguly" < > > > >> gangulybiswarup@gmail.com > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>>> As the types of our organisation the Wikipedia > > > >>>>>>>> goes in IT category. They will provide only the space noting > > else! > > > >>>>>>>