Dear Jayanta,
This is to inform you that as no communication has been received from the
‘Publisher’s and Book-seller’s Guild’, Kolkata, regarding the proposed
‘Wikipedia Stall’ for the ‘Kolkata Book Fair 2012’, I went to the Guild
office today evening to know the status of stall distribution.
I met Mr. Ramen Guha, senior member, the Guild, I told our activities and
purpose for the stall, and he says that in this fair about 70 to 80 stalls
will be reduced this year as Mr. Jogen Chowdhury, the official planner of
‘Kolkata Book Fair 2012’ planned the layout and in this limited space, it
is not possible to accommodate our stall as he termed us as ‘late
applicant’.
I again explained the non-commercial, social usefulness, voluntary
participation etc. then he replied that they can accommodate only against
Rs. 2,00,000/- (Rupees Two Lakhs) only for 100 sq. m of stall space.
I took time from him and he asked us to keep touch with them.
Regards,
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Kalyan Sarkar <kalyan.sarkar(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
> Thank you Hisham. Thank you for your continued support to the Kolkata
> community. Lets make this event a grand success!
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Kalyan Sarkar
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Hisham <hisham(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> > Thank you very much for your detailed comments, Kalyan. Read through
> them
> > and agree fully. My queries were not so much queries but ideas for you
> to
> > consider (and maybe incorporate into your grant application.)
> >
> > You folks will know best how to run it - and you're absolutely right that
> > we need to adapt to the environment. I'm sure there will be some
> tweaking
> > that will be required - but like all your ideas!
> >
> > I'm also sure that a lot of preparatory work will be done prior to the
> > fair and a lot of the ideas will get finalised only then.
> >
> > As I've mentioned before, do let us know any help you need whatsoever.
> > We'd also love to attend some part of the book fair and meet up with as
> > many of you as possible.
> >
> > Warm Regards,
> >
> > hisham
> >
> > On Dec 6, 2011, at 12:13 AM, Kalyan Sarkar wrote:
> >
> > > Hisham,
> > >
> > > Please allow me to reply to your queries one by one.
> > >
> > > Firstly, yes, we are thinking along the lines of having two separate
> > > programmes - one for the outreach and other for the editing. However,
> we
> > > have to keep in mind that we would be getting only 9 square meters
> space.
> > > We'll not have the comfort of serene indoors like we had in Mumbai, or
> > what
> > > we have at our workshops in Kolkata. Invariably, there would be some
> > noise.
> > > In my view, it would be rather difficult to conduct our usual sessions
> > with
> > > projectors and slides. Its would be somewhat awkward to arrange 20 odd
> > > chairs and a projector and expect an audience to build up for a
> session.
> > > Rather we should have as much navigable space as possible for the
> > visitors.
> > >
> > > I believe we need to adapt ourselves to suit the environment. For our
> > > outreach programme, we'll have small video clips in the TV explaining
> > what
> > > Wikipedia is all about. I believe we already have such videos on the
> > > YouTube. We'll show clips from Wiki Conference at Mumbai and clips
from
> > > Jimmy's speeches. We'll host a photo gallery on a portion of a
wall.
> > We'll
> > > hand every person who visits the stall, an introductory leaflet on
> > > Wikipedia and a Wikipedia sticker. We'll have a volunteer who can
> always
> > > explain the basic outreach stuff about Wikipedia to inquisitive
> visitors.
> > >
> > > As it would be difficult to hold workshops per se, for the editing
> > > programme too, we'll show video clips explaining how to make an edit
> and
> > > encourage the crowd to make instant edits. We'll have a couple of
> laptops
> > > ready for them to use and a volunteer who would be there to help them
> > out.
> > > Anybody who makes a successful edit would be rewarded with a small
> token
> > > incentive. It would help to draw the crowd, especially youngsters from
> > > schools and colleges.
> > >
> > > We'll require the following equipments.
> > > 1. Laptops - 2 nos.
> > > 2. 44" LCD/Plasma TV
> > > 3. Sound system
> > > 4. Internet connection (Wi-Fi / Data card)
> > > 5. Furniture for a counter + 4 chairs
> > >
> > > One sure way to get in touch with the visitors is to arrange a lucky
> draw
> > > and ask them to fill up a small form with contact info and drop it in a
> > > box. Additionally we can offer spot memberships, accept donations or
> ask
> > > them to sign up a guestbook. Our basic leaflet for outreach shall have
> > our
> > > contact information, both national and local contacts and details of
> our
> > > next workshop in Kolkata.
> > >
> > > Lastly, I feel that we should also try to sell some of our merchandise,
> > > which could be T shirts, promotional DVDs etc.
> > >
> > > Please let us know what you think.
> > >
> > > Thanks and regards,
> > > Kalyan Sarkar
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Hisham <hisham(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I think this is a great idea and I'd like to volunteer help in
> preparing
> > >> the formal grant application if required. Do let me know.
> > >>
> > >> I'd also suggest the following modifications / additions
> > >>
> > >> a) Can we speak to the organisers and see if they can get this at a
> > >> discounted rate - given WMF is a non-profit and the mission of WMF?
> > >> b) A really important part of the event is the benefits it will
> provide
> > to
> > >> the Wikimedia community / movement. In Mumbai, we had informal
> > discussions
> > >> on what all could be done. These included whether there could be 2
> > >> separate elements - one which would be basic introductory outreach
> > (What is
> > >> Wikipedia? Did you know there is an Bengali Wikipedia? How does
> > Wikipedia
> > >> content get on Wikipedia? Did you know you can edit? Would you like
> to
> > >> edit? Why should you edit? How can you edit?) and a series of
> editing
> > >> workshops for those interested in taking things forward. These
> > workshops
> > >> could be run in both Bengali and English. Can we also flesh out the
> > >> details of how the event will actually be conducted?
> > >> What will happen in what part of the stall?
> > >> Will there be a section on introductory outreach and one for
> > introductory
> > >> editing? How many sessions will be conducted? What equipment
> (chairs,
> > >> projector, laptop, internet, etc. will be required? Who will conduct
> > which
> > >> sessions? How will these sessions be scheduled?
> > >> What will happen in these sessions? How will they be conducted? How
> > many
> > >> people can attend? Is there any material that will be required (e.g.,
> > >> presentation material, brochures, etc.)
> > >> How will we stay in touch in with folks who come and attend either
> basic
> > >> outreach sessions or basic introductory workshops?
> > >>
> > >> Do let me know any assistance you need. I'd be more than happy to
> help
> > >> out.
> > >>
> > >> Would also be nice to discuss some of these things over a g+ / skype /
> > >> phone call?
> > >>
> > >> Best
> > >>
> > >> hisham
> > >>
> > >> On Dec 2, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Biswarup Ganguly wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Dear Kalyan,
> > >>>
> > >>> Thank you for your detail proposal of hiring sound system and
> stickers
> > >>> and/or caps, T-shirts etc. You are right that we need broad band
> > >>> connection or data card whichever is available for running the
live
> > >>> edits, teach and show throughout the exhibition.
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Kalyan Sarkar <
> > kalyan.sarkar(a)gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>> Dear Biswarup da,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We need the sound system to assist the promotional videos that
we
> > would
> > >> run
> > >>>> on the TV as well as promotional events like spot edit/quiz
> contests.
> > >> The
> > >>>> promotional videos could either be extracts from Jimmy's
inspiring
> > >>>> speeches, clips from Wiki Conference India or small video
tutorials
> on
> > >> how
> > >>>> to make the first edit. We can also hold spot edit contests,
where a
> > >> random
> > >>>> person is selected from the crowd to make an edit. If that is a
fair
> > >> edit,
> > >>>> we hand him/her a prize. We can also hold spot quiz contests,
where
> > the
> > >>>> correct answer gets the prize. The prize could be a T shirt.
In
> order
> > to
> > >>>> organize such promotional events, we need a sound system.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I also think, we need internet connection or data card
whichever is
> > >>>> applicable.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> For promotional purposes we can also think of stickers and/or
paper
> > caps
> > >>>> (sun guards) with Wikipedia logo. We can also sell the surplus
T
> > shirts
> > >>>> from the Wiki Conference India programme or other merchandise
if
> any.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks and regards,
> > >>>> Kalyan Sarkar
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Biswarup Ganguly
> > >>>> <gangulybiswarup(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Dear Jayanta,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> It seems to be fine as a starting point of the
'Budget' to me but
> how
> > >>>>> the sound system be used there?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Regards.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Jayanta Nath
<jayantanth(a)gmail.com
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>> Hi
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I am submitting tentative budget breakup for this
event...
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> *Item*
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> * Cost in Rs *
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 1
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Stall Booking @9 sqm
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Rs 60,000.00
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 2
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Stall decoration
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Rs 15,000.00
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 3
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Furniture Rent
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Rs 5,000.00
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 4
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Plasma TV 44” With Stand
> > >>>>>> With DVD Player
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Rs 15,000.00
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 5
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Laptop rent
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Rs 6,000.00
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 6
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Sound system
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Rs 10,000.00
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 7
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Transportation
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Rs 5,000.00
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 8
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Food@Rs1000/day
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Rs 12,000.00
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 9
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Leaflet
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Bengali FAQ@10000 Nos
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Rs 20,000.00
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Bengali Promotion
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Rs 2,000.00
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> English Wikipedia
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Rs 2,000.00
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 10
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hire staff/bearer
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> @ Rs 500@12 days
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Rs 6,000.00
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 11
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Banner
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Rs 2,000.00
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 12
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> other incidentals
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Rs 10,000.00
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Rs 170,000.00
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> $ 3,296.05
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert/?Amount=1&From=INR&To=USD
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Please I would request to every of Bengali/Kolkata
> > >> community,add/modify
> > >>>>> or
> > >>>>>> expand as requirement above Budget breakup.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Asaf Bartov <
> abartov(a)wikimedia.org
> > >
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Hi.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Perhaps you should correct Mr Tapas: we belong in
the
> > >>>>> education/reference
> > >>>>>>> sector, not the IT sector. And we are non-profit.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> It is a good idea to remind our partners that
although we're
> based
> > on
> > >>>>>>> Internet projects, we are not at all *about* the
Internet, but
> > about
> > >>>>> free
> > >>>>>>> knowledge, and the creation and dissemination
thereof.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Asaf
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Nov 26, 2011 12:10 AM, "Biswarup
Ganguly" <
> > >> gangulybiswarup(a)gmail.com
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>> As the types of our organisation the Wikipedia
> > >>>>>>>> goes in IT category. They will provide only the
space noting
> else!
> > >>>>>>>