I think by default tool is OFF. The end user need to select the option according to his/her preference. My suggestion is to continue with that option.
As I understand (and tried on translatewiki), Narayanam gives option of both the methods. phonetic is the default.
Let people choose whatever they want. Personally, I believe inscript should be used as default. If we give choices, people will always use the other one.
-SudhanwaOn Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Shiju Alex <email@example.com> wrote:
Before making a decision on this, I suggest to conduct a survey among existing Marathi wikipedians.We cannot enforce a typing scheme on newbies when we are not getting enough contributes to Marathi wikipedia. Even the latest report shows Marathi wikipedia has just 47 active contributors. If transliteration is brining in more new users please go for that. If Inscript is brining in more new users use that. I am not sure how many of the existing users are using InScript. So make a decision based on the typing habit of existing users and potential new users.The aim should be bringing in more Marathi speakers to marathi wiki.2011/12/13 Saleel Kulkarni <firstname.lastname@example.org>
I agree with and endorse each of Sushant’s statements.
Thanks for this forward.
In my opinion the transliteration should not be the default input method. It should made available as non default.
1. Inscript is the standard keyboard layout approved by Govt. of India and thus it is our duty to encourage it's use.
2. When we make inscript non default, we are encouraging people not tto use it.
3. If any one does not know or does not want to use Inscript, she can use other methods i. e. transliteration etc.
4. There is no standard transliteration scheme available. All available schemes differ with each other in some points. Thus it is not a wise decision to make a non standard method as default. It should be available as non default.
2011/12/13 Mahitgar from Marathi Wikipedia <email@example.com>
From Marathi Language Wikipedia we had requested mediawiki technical team to make a phonetic Marathi font transliteration system default for all anonymous users and new editors who have not completed edits upto 500 edits just simply because if we study edits of new comers and anonymous users it seems that they usualy do not understand how to enable present optional transliteration system.
the Narayam extension as updated for Marathi Language is in beta version available for testing at translatewiki.net . We have received following reply to our Our technical request which is submitted at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32669
This is for your information and discussion after the discussion we will put the information on Marathi Wikipedia poll page and confirm apropriate marathi wikipedia community decesion.
Following forwarded reply is self explanatory, We seek openions from all of you so this is for your information and discussion .Please keep this discussion in english so non marathi development team members can understand our discussion.
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: "firstname.lastname@example.org" <email@example.com>
Sent: Monday, 12 December 2011 12:35 PM
Subject: [Bug 32669] Enable Narayam on mr.wikipedia
--- Comment #2 from Santhosh Thottingal <firstname.lastname@example.org> 2011-12-12 07:05:32 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #0)
> Dear All ,
> Thanks for updating Narayam to Marathi Language requirements in recent
> Hackathon in Mumbai.(You can view the google online presentation at
> Now herewith Marathi Language Wikipedia requests to enable Narayam extension on
> Marathi Language Wikipedia with along with following features (Please see
> Community aproval http://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/विकिपीडिया:कौल )
The extension is available at translatewiki.net , and we marked as beta till we
get feedback from the community that it is stable can be enabled in
mr.wikipedia. So please test and give us confirmation that it works as
> 1)Narayam should be default font inputting system for all unregistered users
> and all users for upto 500 edit
We can make Narayam enabled by default. But the extension does not check the
> 2) The requested inputting facility should be applicable on all namespaces
> including inter active popup windows meant for inserting links and references
This should be ok.
> 3)Also applicable at edit summary,all search windows,all input boxes specialy
> "type=create" group
The extension will be enabled in all editable fields.
> 4)Shall have Marathi inscript keyboard layout option too as per windows
> non-default option
Transliteration is the default one.
> 5)Should be applicable to all skins including vector
We don't support all the mediiawiki skins. Extension supports Vector,
Monobook, Modern skins.
> 6. Narayam should be default to above said user category to New User Creation
> and User Login
Extension does not distinguish uses based on any category.
> 7.Narayam keyboard structure should be editable to Marathi Wikipedia sysops at
> local level
No, The extension does not provide this feature.
If the community is ok with the extension after verifying it at
translatewiki.net, please inform us here. We will enable it in mr wikis in the
next i18n deployment.
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