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Subject: Re: Fw: [Bug 32669] Enable Narayam on mr.wikipedia
Thanks for this forward.
In my opinion the transliteration should not be the default input method. It should made
available as non default.
1. Inscript is the standard keyboard layout approved by Govt. of India and thus it is our
duty to encourage it's use.
2. When we make inscript non default, we are encouraging people not tto use it.
3. If any one does not know or does not want to use Inscript, she can use other methods i.
e. transliteration etc.
4. There is no standard transliteration scheme available. All available schemes differ
with each other in some points. Thus it is not a wise decision to make a non standard
method as default. It should be available as non default.
Sushant
2011/12/13 Mahitgar from Marathi Wikipedia <mahitgar(a)yahoo.co.in>
Dear All
From Marathi Language Wikipedia we had requested
mediawiki technical team to make a phonetic Marathi font transliteration system default
for all anonymous users and new editors who have not completed edits upto 500 edits just
simply because if we study edits of new comers and anonymous users it seems that they
usualy do not understand how to enable present optional transliteration system.
the Narayam extension as updated for Marathi Language is in beta version available for
testing at <http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Portal:Mr>
translatewiki.net . We have
received following reply to our Our technical request which is submitted at
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32669
This is for your information and discussion after the discussion we will put the
information on Marathi Wikipedia poll page and confirm apropriate marathi wikipedia
community decesion.
Following forwarded reply is self explanatory, We seek openions from all of you so this is
for your information and discussion .Please keep this discussion in english so non marathi
development team members can understand our discussion.
Regards
mahitgar
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Sent: Monday, 12 December 2011 12:35 PM
Subject: [Bug 32669] Enable Narayam on mr.wikipedia
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32669
--- Comment #2 from Santhosh Thottingal <santhosh.thottingal(a)gmail.com> 2011-12-12
07:05:32 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #0)
Dear All ,
Thanks for updating Narayam to Marathi Language requirements in recent
Hackathon in Mumbai.(You can view the google online presentation at
[
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1uWz-tCvrRg5GaPh5lD_0aPy9CnUmRUVaHcs…]
Now herewith Marathi Language Wikipedia requests to enable Narayam extension on
Marathi Language Wikipedia with along with following features (Please see
Community aproval
http://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/
<http://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B5%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%BE:%E0%A4%95%E0%A5%8C%E0%A4%B2>
विकिपीडिया:कौल )
The extension is available at
translatewiki.net , and we marked as beta till we
get feedback from the community that it is stable can be enabled in
mr.wikipedia. So please test and give us confirmation that it works as
expected.
1)Narayam should be default font inputting system for
all unregistered users
and all users for upto 500 edit
We can make Narayam enabled by default. But the extension does not check the
edits count.
2) The requested inputting facility should be
applicable on all namespaces
including inter active popup windows meant for inserting links and references
This should be ok.
3)Also applicable at edit summary,all search
windows,all input boxes specialy
"type=create" group
The extension will be enabled in all editable fields.
4)Shall have Marathi inscript keyboard layout option
too as per windows
non-default option
Transliteration is the default one.
5)Should be applicable to all skins including vector
We don't support all the mediiawiki skins. Extension supports Vector,
Monobook, Modern skins.
6. Narayam should be default to above said user
category to New User Creation
and User Login
Extension does not distinguish uses based on any category.
7.Narayam keyboard structure should be editable to
Marathi Wikipedia sysops at
local level
No, The extension does not provide this feature.
If the community is ok with the extension after verifying it at
translatewiki.net, please inform us here. We will enable it in mr wikis in the
next i18n deployment.
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