I think YES, we should set up a demo wiki
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1. Re: Demo wiki? (Dan Koehl)
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From: Dan Koehl <dan.koehl@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-genealogy] Demo wiki?
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I think YES, we should set up a demo wiki
dan
2017-04-25 3:27 GMT+02:00 Sam Wilson <sam@samwilson.id.au>:
> Hi all,
>
> Should we set up a demonstration wiki?
>
> I'm thinking it might be good to have a wiki to experiment with different
> things, such as software requirements. I have been tinkering on a Genealogy
> extension, — it's super-basic and doesn't do much. (That's by design,
> really,
> because I didn't want to build features such as citation management or
> image
> handling that are not specific to genealogy.
>
> It's probably not a place to put permanent information (although it could
> be
> that too), but we could install MediaWiki at
> https://tools.wmflabs.org/genealogy/wiki and start experimenting with
> things
> there. Does that sound like a worthwhile thing?
>
> My current aim is to get the Genealogy extension to support Wikidata. It'd
> be
> good to have a place to demonstrate and figure out how this could work.
>
> Thanks,
> Sam.
>
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 20:35:23 -0400
From: James Mason <jrm@slashmail.org>
To: "Discussion about the Wikimedia genealogy project."
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FWIW - I've been grinding away on getting the WeRelate genealogy wiki
(2.8 M _UNIQUE_ Person Pages) to be "aligned" with Wikidata. At the
moment, about 24,500 WeRelate Person: pages have explicit links to their
corresponding Wikidata human. A little more than 24,000 of the
corresponding Wikidata humans have identifiers/back-links to WeRelate.
My compare/contrast effort between WeRelate and Wikidata should increase
the overlapping set of people beyond 30,000. Since the various WP
biography pages are not systematic about relationships (often not
present - and if the related person has a biography on a different
language WP it may not be noticed) - a lot of genealogy relationships
are missing from Wikidata. The comparison run I did today suggested
that there are about 11,500 relationship properties (father, mother,
sibling, etc.) that can be inferred for Wikidata - on the basis of
WeRelate.
While I could see that the Wikidata database is more instantly usable on
account of the property orientation and newer software infrastructure -
WeRelate is not utterly hopeless. It has an internal organization that
preserve the semantic structure of GEDCOM files. WeRelate also isn't
stuck with WP notability requirements - so you can add (within reason) -
pretty much whatever you want.
I would sort of think that the WR database - and perhaps DallanQ's code
base - seem like better starting points...
-jrm
On 2017-08-24 15:00, Dan Koehl wrote:
> I think YES, we should set up a demo wiki
>
> dan
>
> 2017-04-25 3:27 GMT+02:00 Sam Wilson <sam@samwilson.id.au>:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Should we set up a demonstration wiki?
>>
>> I'm thinking it might be good to have a wiki to experiment with different
>> things, such as software requirements. I have been tinkering on a Genealogy
>> extension, -- it's super-basic and doesn't do much. (That's by design, really,
>> because I didn't want to build features such as citation management or image
>> handling that are not specific to genealogy.
>>
>> It's probably not a place to put permanent information (although it could be
>> that too), but we could install MediaWiki at
>> https://tools.wmflabs.org/genealogy/wiki [1] and start experimenting with things
>> there. Does that sound like a worthwhile thing?
>>
>> My current aim is to get the Genealogy extension to support Wikidata. It'd be
>> good to have a place to demonstrate and figure out how this could work.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sam.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wikimedia-genealogy mailing list
>> Wikimedia-genealogy@lists.wikimedia.org
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-genealogy [2]
>
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