I concur that the startup funds should be disbursed to Pine.

- Brian

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      User Group (Raymond Leonard)
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      User Group (Ann Summy)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 16:09:43 -0800
From: Pine W <wiki.pine@gmail.com>
To: Alex Wang <awang@wikimedia.org>, Wikimedia Cascadia mailing list
        <wikimedia-cascadia@lists.wikimedia.org>,       James Hare
        <james.hare@wikidc.org>,        Kirill Lokshin <kirill.lokshin@gmail.com>
Subject: [Wikimedia Cascadia] TIME SENSITIVE startup funds for
        Cascadia        Wikimedians User Group
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Wikimedia DC, Alex (WMF), and Cascadia board,

As I mentioned in an earlier email, Xero is having a sale that will save
$90 in cost if we subscribe by the end of January. (I have a coupon code
for the sale.)

In addition to this timing consideration, I have observed the following
conundrum: we can't set up a bank account if we don't have an address and a
Washington State business registration, and we can't set up our address
with Impact HUB if we can't pay, and we can't register with Washington
State if we can't pay.

To get out of this conundrum, because timing is important (the Xero sale
ends on January 31, which means that we need have funds available before
then), and because Wikimedia DC's reporting requirements appear to be less
time-consuming than PEG's reporting requirements, I would like the group's
permission to request interim funding from Wikimedia DC's grants program
for the following expenses. The payment would be made to me, and I would
use the funds for the following purposes:

Two months of Xero subscription, after discount, plus tax: $33
Two months of Impact HUB rent, for 2 days each month: $70
Two months of Impact HUB mailbox rent: $50
State of Washington business license, including $19 processing fee and $5
trade name fee: $24
State of Washington Secretary of State nonprofit corporation registration:
$30
City of Seattle registration: $110
City of Bellevue registration: $86
Initial refundable bank deposit with BECU: $5
High-security checkbook from BECU: $35
Total grant request: $443

Any remaining funds would be returned to Wikimedia DC. If these expenses
are funded by  Wikimedia DC, then they would be deducted from our upcoming
PEG request to WMF.

Is this agreeable to Cascadia's Board members? We need at least 4 members
of our Board to agree before I can submit this request to Wikimedia DC.

Thank you!

Pine

*This is an Encyclopedia* <https://www.wikipedia.org/>






*One gateway to the wide garden of knowledge, where lies The deep rock of
our past, in which we must delve The well of our future,The clear water we
must leave untainted for those who come after us,The fertile earth, in
which truth may grow in bright places, tended by many hands,And the broad
fall of sunshine, warming our first steps toward knowing how much we do not
know.**—Catherine Munro*
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 16:21:21 -0800
From: Raymond Leonard <raymond.f.leonard.jr@gmail.com>
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This is agreeable to me. I concur.

Yours,
Peaceray

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Pine W <wiki.pine@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wikimedia DC, Alex (WMF), and Cascadia board,
>
> As I mentioned in an earlier email, Xero is having a sale that will save
> $90 in cost if we subscribe by the end of January. (I have a coupon code
> for the sale.)
>
> In addition to this timing consideration, I have observed the following
> conundrum: we can't set up a bank account if we don't have an address and a
> Washington State business registration, and we can't set up our address
> with Impact HUB if we can't pay, and we can't register with Washington
> State if we can't pay.
>
> To get out of this conundrum, because timing is important (the Xero sale
> ends on January 31, which means that we need have funds available before
> then), and because Wikimedia DC's reporting requirements appear to be less
> time-consuming than PEG's reporting requirements, I would like the group's
> permission to request interim funding from Wikimedia DC's grants program
> for the following expenses. The payment would be made to me, and I would
> use the funds for the following purposes:
>
> Two months of Xero subscription, after discount, plus tax: $33
> Two months of Impact HUB rent, for 2 days each month: $70
> Two months of Impact HUB mailbox rent: $50
> State of Washington business license, including $19 processing fee and $5
> trade name fee: $24
> State of Washington Secretary of State nonprofit corporation registration:
> $30
> City of Seattle registration: $110
> City of Bellevue registration: $86
> Initial refundable bank deposit with BECU: $5
> High-security checkbook from BECU: $35
> Total grant request: $443
>
> Any remaining funds would be returned to Wikimedia DC. If these expenses
> are funded by  Wikimedia DC, then they would be deducted from our upcoming
> PEG request to WMF.
>
> Is this agreeable to Cascadia's Board members? We need at least 4 members
> of our Board to agree before I can submit this request to Wikimedia DC.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Pine
>
> *This is an Encyclopedia* <https://www.wikipedia.org/>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *One gateway to the wide garden of knowledge, where lies The deep rock of
> our past, in which we must delve The well of our future,The clear water we
> must leave untainted for those who come after us,The fertile earth, in
> which truth may grow in bright places, tended by many hands,And the broad
> fall of sunshine, warming our first steps toward knowing how much we do not
> know.**—Catherine Munro*
>
> _______________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 16:27:22 -0800
From: Ann Summy <ann.summy@gmail.com>
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Cc: James Hare <james.hare@wikidc.org>, Alex Wang
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Cascadia] TIME SENSITIVE startup funds for
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Pine, I can ask an Impact HUB member if there's some way to get around the
address issue. It may take a couple of days to get an answer.

Seems to me this kind of thing comes up with 501(c)(3) organizations all
the time. Business/organization bank accounts allow the use of PO Box
addresses. There is some juggling that can be done using that or
transferring the business address from a temporary (maybe personal) one to
a final one later.

--Ann

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Sent from my Android.
On Jan 19, 2015 4:09 PM, "Pine W" <wiki.pine@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wikimedia DC, Alex (WMF), and Cascadia board,
>
> As I mentioned in an earlier email, Xero is having a sale that will save
> $90 in cost if we subscribe by the end of January. (I have a coupon code
> for the sale.)
>
> In addition to this timing consideration, I have observed the following
> conundrum: we can't set up a bank account if we don't have an address and a
> Washington State business registration, and we can't set up our address
> with Impact HUB if we can't pay, and we can't register with Washington
> State if we can't pay.
>
> To get out of this conundrum, because timing is important (the Xero sale
> ends on January 31, which means that we need have funds available before
> then), and because Wikimedia DC's reporting requirements appear to be less
> time-consuming than PEG's reporting requirements, I would like the group's
> permission to request interim funding from Wikimedia DC's grants program
> for the following expenses. The payment would be made to me, and I would
> use the funds for the following purposes:
>
> Two months of Xero subscription, after discount, plus tax: $33
> Two months of Impact HUB rent, for 2 days each month: $70
> Two months of Impact HUB mailbox rent: $50
> State of Washington business license, including $19 processing fee and $5
> trade name fee: $24
> State of Washington Secretary of State nonprofit corporation registration:
> $30
> City of Seattle registration: $110
> City of Bellevue registration: $86
> Initial refundable bank deposit with BECU: $5
> High-security checkbook from BECU: $35
> Total grant request: $443
>
> Any remaining funds would be returned to Wikimedia DC. If these expenses
> are funded by  Wikimedia DC, then they would be deducted from our upcoming
> PEG request to WMF.
>
> Is this agreeable to Cascadia's Board members? We need at least 4 members
> of our Board to agree before I can submit this request to Wikimedia DC.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Pine
>
> *This is an Encyclopedia* <https://www.wikipedia.org/>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *One gateway to the wide garden of knowledge, where lies The deep rock of
> our past, in which we must delve The well of our future,The clear water we
> must leave untainted for those who come after us,The fertile earth, in
> which truth may grow in bright places, tended by many hands,And the broad
> fall of sunshine, warming our first steps toward knowing how much we do not
> know.**—Catherine Munro*
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wikimedia-Cascadia mailing list
> Wikimedia-Cascadia@lists.wikimedia.org
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-cascadia
>
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 16:36:15 -0800
From: Pine W <wiki.pine@gmail.com>
To: Wikimedia Cascadia group mailing list
        <wikimedia-cascadia@lists.wikimedia.org>, Ann Summy
        <ann.summy@gmail.com>
Cc: James Hare <james.hare@wikidc.org>, Alex Wang
        <awang@wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Cascadia] TIME SENSITIVE startup funds for
        Cascadia Wikimedians User Group
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Hi Ann,

Actually, in Washington State, PO boxes are not permitted for use when
registering a business with the state, because legal service of process
cannot be delivered to a PO box. I also believe that PO boxes are not
permitted as substitutes for physical addresses when registering a bank
account; the bank is required to check the account holders' names against
Federal criminal databases and watchlists, and needs to be able to execute
its own legal demands against the account holder if necessary. (Let's hope
that we never encounter that situation!)

I will need to work out how the registered agent / service of process
activities would work with Impact HUB, but my initial conversation with
them suggests that they *may* be willing to be a registered agent on our
behalf as well.

I do appreciate your willingness to check with someone at Impact HUB to see
if they might be willing to temporarily let us borrow their contact
information. However, since these are all issues that we're going to need
to resolve soon anyway, I think we should try to solve them once only, in
order to save everyone time and effort (:

Pine

Pine

*This is an Encyclopedia* <https://www.wikipedia.org/>






*One gateway to the wide garden of knowledge, where lies The deep rock of
our past, in which we must delve The well of our future,The clear water we
must leave untainted for those who come after us,The fertile earth, in
which truth may grow in bright places, tended by many hands,And the broad
fall of sunshine, warming our first steps toward knowing how much we do not
know.*

*—Catherine Munro*

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Ann Summy <ann.summy@gmail.com> wrote:

> Pine, I can ask an Impact HUB member if there's some way to get around the
> address issue. It may take a couple of days to get an answer.
>
> Seems to me this kind of thing comes up with 501(c)(3) organizations all
> the time. Business/organization bank accounts allow the use of PO Box
> addresses. There is some juggling that can be done using that or
> transferring the business address from a temporary (maybe personal) one to
> a final one later.
>
> --Ann
>
> _______________________
> Sent from my Android.
> On Jan 19, 2015 4:09 PM, "Pine W" <wiki.pine@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Wikimedia DC, Alex (WMF), and Cascadia board,
>>
>> As I mentioned in an earlier email, Xero is having a sale that will save
>> $90 in cost if we subscribe by the end of January. (I have a coupon code
>> for the sale.)
>>
>> In addition to this timing consideration, I have observed the following
>> conundrum: we can't set up a bank account if we don't have an address and a
>> Washington State business registration, and we can't set up our address
>> with Impact HUB if we can't pay, and we can't register with Washington
>> State if we can't pay.
>>
>> To get out of this conundrum, because timing is important (the Xero sale
>> ends on January 31, which means that we need have funds available before
>> then), and because Wikimedia DC's reporting requirements appear to be less
>> time-consuming than PEG's reporting requirements, I would like the group's
>> permission to request interim funding from Wikimedia DC's grants program
>> for the following expenses. The payment would be made to me, and I would
>> use the funds for the following purposes:
>>
>> Two months of Xero subscription, after discount, plus tax: $33
>> Two months of Impact HUB rent, for 2 days each month: $70
>> Two months of Impact HUB mailbox rent: $50
>> State of Washington business license, including $19 processing fee and $5
>> trade name fee: $24
>> State of Washington Secretary of State nonprofit corporation
>> registration: $30
>> City of Seattle registration: $110
>> City of Bellevue registration: $86
>> Initial refundable bank deposit with BECU: $5
>> High-security checkbook from BECU: $35
>> Total grant request: $443
>>
>> Any remaining funds would be returned to Wikimedia DC. If these expenses
>> are funded by  Wikimedia DC, then they would be deducted from our upcoming
>> PEG request to WMF.
>>
>> Is this agreeable to Cascadia's Board members? We need at least 4 members
>> of our Board to agree before I can submit this request to Wikimedia DC.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Pine
>>
>> *This is an Encyclopedia* <https://www.wikipedia.org/>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *One gateway to the wide garden of knowledge, where lies The deep rock of
>> our past, in which we must delve The well of our future,The clear water we
>> must leave untainted for those who come after us,The fertile earth, in
>> which truth may grow in bright places, tended by many hands,And the broad
>> fall of sunshine, warming our first steps toward knowing how much we do not
>> know.**—Catherine Munro*
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wikimedia-Cascadia mailing list
>> Wikimedia-Cascadia@lists.wikimedia.org
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-cascadia
>>
>>
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