I have a thought, and with it comes a declaration of COI.
Some of you may know that I work for the Internet registry for .wiki (among
other top level domains). I don't know if it is required that we use a .org
site (like most other Wikimedia affiliates), assuming we create an external
site specifically for use by the group, but if we were interested in using
something like cascadia.wiki we (group members) would not need to worry
about registration, hosting, renewals and other maintenance requirements.
I float this idea for several reasons: 1) Group members would have to
accept using a .wiki domain. New TLDs are unfamiliar to some people, but I
think a name like cascadia.wiki is unique, easy to read and remember, and
intuitive, describing the region and the purpose of both the site and the
group's activities. 2) To be upfront about my COI. Sure, I benefit
indirectly from the domain's use in that awareness of the .wiki TLD
benefits the company I work for, but really we are just talking about a
single domain registration. We are not talking about lots of money here and
I won't be getting any sort of bonus check for pitching a sale. Really, I
just think it is a fantastic domain name and it would be great if more wiki
projects took advantage of the .wiki option. 3) To make sure we consider
all options and reduce overhead where we can. I just want to make this
option known and offer to handle the relationship between the user group
and the domain registry/registrar and hosting provider.
I'd love to hear your thoughts and we can continue the discussion re:
domain options at Meta if needed.
Jason
On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I'm just now catching up on email. Regarding the
website, I would like it
to be a place where we can make our grants and board documents available. I
feel that it should be legally separate from WMF web properties, although
we may run MediaWiki on the website. The company that hosts the SeaFOSS
website has provided me with good service and I'm planning to include a web
hosting fee from them in our proposed budget and grant requests. I could
run a site under my own name under my current contract, but it's legally
preferable for our user group to have an independent contract. Once the
website is operational I think the maintenance will be modest. We can
continue to have discussions on Meta and have event postings also noted on
Meta and ENWP. ENWP's geonotice feature is especially useful. I agree that
we need to be mindful of maintenance requirements, and for that reason we
might want to limit the content posted to our website while providing
prominent referrals to places where we're already maintaining and updating
information on Meta and English Wikipedia. I think the most labor-intensive
part of the operation will be setting up the website; once that is done
we'll probably only need to update it a few times a year. Mako and Jason,
if you two would be willing to collaborate with each other to set up a
modest website when we get the funds for hosting, I would appreciate it (:
Pine
*This is an Encyclopedia* <https://www.wikipedia.org/>
*One gateway to the wide garden of knowledge, where lies The deep rock of
our past, in which we must delve The well of our future,The clear water we
must leave untainted for those who come after us,The fertile earth, in
which truth may grow in bright places, tended by many hands,And the broad
fall of sunshine, warming our first steps toward knowing how much we do not
know.*
*—Catherine Munro*
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Jason Moore <anotherbelieverwp(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Another option is to create a Cascadia
Wikimedians page at English
Wikipedia. It might get more traffic and participation than the Meta pages.
But, of course, this would just be one more page to manage. I would only
recommend creating it if we think much of our activities will be centered
around ENWP and if we think it would invite more participation. If we do
want a page at ENWP (of course I am talking about a project page, not a
Wikipedia article), I'd be happy to get one started.
Jason
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 7:32 PM, Benj. Mako Hill <mako(a)atdot.cc> wrote:
Greetings Pine!
<quote who="Pine W" date="Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 01:28:10AM
-0800">
However, if anyone has spare time to do things
like set up websites
and bank accounts, please let me know.
I'm happy to set up a website. What sort of thing were you thinking?
It seems that lots of usergroups use their pages in meta as their main
websites. Sometimes, groups have a prettier page on a domain that
highlights some recent events and points there. I've hesitant to
create a special website that we then need to maintain unless it's
solving a problem. :)
Later,
Mako
--
Benjamin Mako Hill
http://mako.cc/
Creativity can be a social contribution, but only in so far
as society is free to use the results. --GNU Manifesto
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