I'm all for uber toolservers, and I'm more than happy to be involved with said project.   I do have some other nefarious idea's for how to use a chapter to advance evil agendas... that being said - what's the real point of having a chapter?  I mean, I know they are non-profits, but besides that I guess I'm confused as to how _we_ (Californian's) will use it?

Looking at the projects we currently do (Just from the SF Bay perspective) and those that we want to do - how will having a chapter help get them done quicker/easier/faster/cheaper/whateverer?

As a random note back to toolservers, there are many hosting facilities in NorCal. I've priced many of them for my real job.  They are by no means unbelievably expensive, but they are by no means cheap either.  I'm not sure what WMGermany is paying (if someone knows, or can point my in that direction, I'd be interested) but we're looking at a general minimum of $100/mo for a 1U server with 1mbit/s.  That isn't exactly...much... and doesn't count the cost of actually buying the server.  Simply to have a mirror of all the databases is going to take a lot more horsepower and hard drive space (And therefor lots more money, upfront and monthly).  I realize we can probably get the foundation to give us some of their servers next they remove a series for service... but I'm just thinking broadly there.

-Jon

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 21:35, James Salsman <jsalsman@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Geoff,

Thank you for your hard work on requesting the Chapter mailing list and for serving as Chapter Contact.  I hope you will conduct the business within reason and evidence.

As for articles of incorporation and bylaws, we should adopt the Chapter Committee's recommendation and Roberts Rules of Order, respectively, coonducting meetings on IRC.  Will you ask the Chapter Committee, please, whether they recommend copying the Foundation's Articles of Incorporation, and so send along a copy of them if they have them?

As for projects, I know the Google Summer of Code applications with positive evaluations which did not get approved because the Foundation did not request a sufficient number of slots are excellent projects for us to attempt.  I also think we should try to make better price/performance Mediawiki servers than the German chapter has been able, as a long-term hardware project goal.

Discussion? Please reply and forward to the new list.

Regards,
James Salsman

On May 4, 2010 8:46 PM, "Geoffrey Plourde" <geo.plrd@yahoo.com> wrote:

Everyone,
 
The permanent mailing list for Wikimedia-California, Wikimedia-california@lists.wikimedia.org has been created. Please go to https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-california to subscribe to the list and receive updates as the chapter for the Golden State is formed. You can also add your name on Meta at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_California#Roster_.28Join_the_cause.21.29, if you haven't already done so. We'll begin drafting Articles of Incorporation and Bylaws soon, as well as planning projects for the chapter to work on when fully operational.
 
Thanks,
 
Geoff Plourde 


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