Follow-up that there is a story in the Signpost about the movement charter ratification that gives some more background that might be helpful: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia%3AWikipedia_Signpost%2F2024-07-04%2F...

Be sure to let me know by the 8th if you have opinions.

Cheers, Phoebe

On Tue, Jul 2, 2024, 18:02 phoebe ayers phoebe.ayers@gmail.com wrote:

Dear Greater Bostonians,

Our usergroup, Wikimedia New England, is eligible to vote in the movement charter ratification vote: https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter

Thanks to SJ for getting our paperwork in order to make this possible. I'll be voting on behalf of the group, as SJ is also the representative for another user group.

The charter has been developed through a long and involved international process. It seeks to define roles, responsibilities and governance among different movement bodies, such as the WMF and chapters. The ratification vote is happening now for both groups and individuals (established editors can also vote for themselves).

If you have any feelings about the movement charter - positive, negative or ambivalent - please express your preferred vote to me this week, by July 8th (the day before the vote closes) either publicly on the list or privately. Because we don't really have defined membership, I'll try to discern the feelings of the group based on the feedback I get. (In other words, if you identify as a New England Wikimedian, you are a part of the group, and feel free to tell me what you think).

Questions? Let me know.

Cheers, Phoebe

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On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 6:03 PM phoebe ayers phoebe.ayers@gmail.com wrote:

Dear Greater Bostonians,

Our usergroup, Wikimedia New England, is eligible to vote in the movement charter ratification vote: https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Charter

Thanks to SJ for getting our paperwork in order to make this possible. I'll be voting on behalf of the group, as SJ is also the representative for another user group.

The charter has been developed through a long and involved international process. It seeks to define roles, responsibilities and governance among different movement bodies, such as the WMF and chapters. The ratification vote is happening now for both groups and individuals (established editors can also vote for themselves).

If you have any feelings about the movement charter - positive, negative or ambivalent - please express your preferred vote to me this week, by July 8th (the day before the vote closes) either publicly on the list or privately. Because we don't really have defined membership, I'll try to discern the feelings of the group based on the feedback I get. (In other words, if you identify as a New England Wikimedian, you are a part of the group, and feel free to tell me what you think).

Questions? Let me know.

Cheers, Phoebe

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Hi all,

I voted yes (I was inclined to support, but only inclined - there are still issues with the charter, and I've even been thinking about writing my own version of it and posting that on metawiki). I also left some comments which I am reproducing here verbatim as food for thought:

- I do appreciate the language about the importance of wikis and of individuals (back during the community consultation zoom call there was none at all!), but I do feel like the language could be more forceful about this point - The amendment process seems a rather high barrier which may become an issue if the Global Council and/or WMF become increasingly corrupt - To some extent I'm not seeing the point of having such a document? I edit several wikis and have come to see that each wiki is unique, so I'm doubtful of how far a global policy can go. Also if the goal was just to create a "Global Council", then the WMF could have just gone ahead and done that without such a long, drawn-out process. As for the New England Wikimedians group, I'm a bit disappointed in our smallness and irregularity. (And also confused about whether we're rebranding to this or not, since the mailing list name is still "wikimedia-boston".) If anyone else here is interested, I'm down for holding a meetup this month or next in Newton or Cambridge.

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On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 4:34 PM, phoebe ayers <[phoebe.ayers@gmail.com](mailto:On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 4:34 PM, phoebe ayers <<a href=)> wrote:

Hi folks - just a quick reminder that the vote closes today at 7:59pm our time, so if you are eligible and interested and haven't voted as an individual please do. If you're not sure, you can vote neutral. Note the drafters are also interested in any and all comments!

Any last comments to me about New England Wikimedians, please let me know.

Phoebe

On Thu, Jul 4, 2024, 17:47 Tom Morris <tfmorris@gmail.com> wrote:

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On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 4:12 PM phoebe ayers <phoebe.ayers@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Follow-up that there is a story in the Signpost about the movement charter ratification that gives some more background that might be helpful: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia%3AWikipedia_Signpost%2F2024-07-04%2FSpecial_report?wprov=sfla1

Thanks Phoebe. I was going to ask if you, SJ, or any of the others "in the know" had recommendations, since I don't follow all the behind the scenes machinations closely.

The Signpost article (and the links it contains) provides useful context.

Tom