Thank you Shabab for the clarification.

Indeed, we discuss a lot but without a material progress. however, that is also a part of forming any organization. People have to discuss a lot and then some of then took the pain of doing some material things and bring them beck to the discussion.

I hope the discussion of having a good chapter will continue for the betterment of our community.


On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Shabab Mustafa <shabab.mustafa@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear all,

The discussion about forming a chapter is running for almost two years. We have discussed about that several times in our meet-ups, mailing lists and spent hours in IRC channel. But unfortunately there was no material progress so far. So some active community members formed a small team with interested persons to work more seriously on this and to speed up the process. I think this is how na organization forms including Wikimedia Chapters.

And another thing to clarify to avoid misconceptions, though these signatories are some selected members of the community, they are not the final 'Executive Committee'. These people will just help to form the chapter and will responsible for shaping and preparing the chapter for it's first general election, where members of the community will elect people for their own executive committee. The full process will be a democratic process. In short, this is just an interim committee until the election to carry on the official tasks.

Regards,
---
Shabab Mustafa




On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Goutam Roy <gtmroy@gmail.com> wrote:
Like Belayet Bhai and others, I also think that without previous discussion with the community, any committee should not be formed and run. I hope the committee formation process will be transparent as well. All of us should consider seriously this raising issue.
 
Thanks and regards,
 
Goutam Roy

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Béria Lima <berialima@gmail.com> wrote:
belayet,

Your name is still in meta page. Not as a member of the "future board", but as one of the interred people.
_____
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Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.



2011/5/26 Belayet Hossain <bellayet@gmail.com>
I worked for the formation of Wikimedia Bangladesh chapters for several years. Several times I call people to discuss and participate at the chapter formation process. But this time I wonder there is no discussion about the chapter setup committee as well the draft memorandum at the mailing list or at Wikis or at any meetups.

Without any previous discussion with the community and any open call for participation that committee has been formed and announced. Also the proposed memorandum that submitted to the chapter committee without any consent of previously who are involved with the chapter formation process. Though I am active in my Wikimedia activities, without informing me, my name have been erased from the Chapter page at the Meta page. And no one from the self declared Chapter setup committee has contact me on this issue. There is no meetups or online meeting has been called publicly to discussion about this issue. Without knowing people they discussed the issue among themselves and declare the committee and the memorandum at mailing list.

I'd like to request the people who are involved with that tasks, Please be transparent with this process. Call the community to involve and discuss with them. Don't be a part of any collusion without informing people who are worked for and involved with this initiatives for several years. Wikimedia Bangladesh must be a community driven organization, should not be a personal asset.

Regards
Belayet


On 26 May 2011 01:37, mak <mahayalamkhan@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,

Can anyone tell us, what was the selection procedure followed, to select the member of executive committee. Have we missed the discussion of forming of the committee in this mailing list?

regards
mak_


On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:40 PM, tonmoy khan <tonmoy.du@gmail.com> wrote:
For those who are new to the idea of Wikimedia Bangladesh Chapter &
its creation process, I would suggest pls go through the meta page of
Wikimedia Bangladesh Chapter. There you will find details about a
Wikimedia Chapter, its purpose & activities, about Wikimedia
Bangladesh, steps to follow for formation of the chapter, draft of
proposed memorandum of association & other related materials.

We have formally submitted a draft of proposed memorandum of Wikimedia
Bangladesh to the Chapter committee & they are reviewing it. Members
of the chapter committee & other interested people from different
existing chapters are subscribing to wikimedia-bd mailing list for
this purpose. Hence, we initiated this thread in English for easier
understanding of those who don't know Bangla.

Hope every one is clear regarding the language of this thread.
Inviting all to participate actively in this discussion.

Thanks

Ali Haidar Khan Tonmoy

On 5/25/11, Shabab Mustafa <shabab.mustafa@gmail.com> wrote:
> @Ashickur,
>
> Please, follow Article II of 'Article of association of Wikimedia Bangladesh
> Foundation' [1] (proposed) for the details about Membership. (Scroll down a
> bit and you will find the details.
>
> Thank you.
>
> ---
> Shabab Mustafa
>
> [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Bangladesh/MoA
> <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Shabab>
>
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Md Ashickur Rahman Noor <
> ashickur.noor@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ভাই এই মেইলটা কি বাংলায় লেখা যায় না, খবর টা যেহেতু বাংলাদেশীদের জন্য তাই
>> বাংলা হলে ভাল হয়। আর এই chapter এ ঢুকব কিভাবে?
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> Dedicated Linux Forum in
>> Bangladesh<http://forums.linuxdesh.com/member.php?action=register&referrer=3%20>
>> Follow Me Twiter <https://twitter.com/#%21/AshickunNoor>
>> Thank you
>> Md Ashickur Rahman
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Rahman Khan
>> <rahman.khan.john@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Please make it Bangla Wikipedia NOT Bengali. Thank you.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:36 AM, Ragib Hasan <ragibhasan@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Wikipedians,
>>>>
>>>> I am very pleased to announce our initiative to create an official
>>>> Bangladesh chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation, named Wikimedia
>>>> Bangladesh. Maybe many of you already know: currently the existence of
>>>> this chapter is unofficial, but we believe it is time to get an
>>>> official identity to promote free knowledge all over Bangladesh more
>>>> efficiently. We have already formed a small work-group to work in this
>>>> process [1].
>>>>
>>>> Wikimedia Bangladesh will be a non-profit organisation devoted towards
>>>> promoting Wikipedia and related projects and creating public awareness
>>>> in Bangladesh.
>>>>
>>>> To kick-start the process, we have contacted the Chapters Committee
>>>> [2] of the Wikimedia Foundation. We also updated our chapter page [3]
>>>> on Meta-Wiki [4]. We have also submitted the draft of our Memorandum
>>>> of Association [5]. Currently the creation of this chapter is under
>>>> active consideration by the Chapters Committee.
>>>>
>>>> We invite Bangladeshi wikipedians to support the Wikimedia Bangladesh
>>>> chapter and review the official memorandum of understanding. Please
>>>> reply in this thread and provide your invaluable feedback.
>>>>
>>>> With regards,
>>>>
>>>> Ragib Hasan
>>>> User:Ragib on en/bn
>>>>
>>>> Bureaucrat, Bengali Wikipedia
>>>> Administrator, English Wikipedia
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Bangladesh#Responsibilities
>>>> [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_committee
>>>> [3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Bangladesh
>>>> [4] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
>>>> [5] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Bangladesh/MoA
>>>>
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