Hi All,

Now I'm back from Hong Kong, I've had a chance to think a little further about this, and I really think that we ought to consider basing it upon one article per language, rather than by country.  Each Wikipedia should decide for itself if it wants to participate, and if they do then they get to suggest one article for translation.  That way, if all 22 official languages of India wish to participate, then they can, because there'll be 22 times as many volunteers!  This way minority languages can also get involved if they wish to, which will be an important consideration perhaps in places like Indonesia and New Guinea which enjoy much language diversity.  If it's a success with the modest total of one article per language, then we can think of compiling a list of 20 articles per language for an expanded second round.

I'm not entirely sure how this would work for countries like mine which have their own culture but not their own language, perhaps we just suggest an Australia related article already in English Wikipedia and translate that to all others.  I envision we would promote this as a chapter project in my country, but this will not be feasible for many other Asian countries which do not yet have their own chapters or thematic orgs.  

What does everyone think?

Cheers,
Craig Franklin





On 14 August 2013 17:34, ksaka98 <ksaka98@gmail.com> wrote:

In my opinion, 

We start to select one or two articles per lang or country for first step.

At the end of this program, translation should be finished. Because editors would expect articles to be read in another lang wikis. The fact that articles of your culture, which you edit, Spread out to many of asian wikipedias would encourage local editors.

Listing articles in scale of 20 per lang and/or country  grows list of hanreds of articles on asia. If 10 of local wp joins this programme, create 10 article, 100 articles would be created on enwp. Then each wp translate 100 article to their lang. It's not actual number to do, especially smaller wikis. We want more local wikis to join.

Listing would be another  program to do. Listing up would be possible. It will be a kind of  Asian version of  "List of articles every Wikipedia should have". All articles should be created in future. 

If we setelct one or two articles, each lang wp community need one or two user who can translate articles from each lang wiki to enwp. they translate only one or two articles. 

>From enwp to each lang wiki, more translator is needed. But translation from en to each lang is easier than each lang to en. 

Articles should be important and familier for each community. It would be local, regional, wellknown  cultural thing or person. So that each community can easily edit the article, people can join to wikipedia project, and also easy to search sources which satisfies WP:V and WP:N. 

Member of chapters or Mailing list will be able to select articles for his/her home wiki. Asking community is better.  

In my opinion, articles of  literatures, musics, or dramas are suitable. Those things are connected to lang or region. For example, Suwignyo Adi(Java) is not created article in enwp, Sin Sisamuth(Khmer), Thongchai McIntyre(Thai) need citation. 

Some chapters can challenge edit-thon, or outreach event for GLAMs, cultural facilities, specialist goup, or overseas workers and/or students  with this program.

Ks aka 98 (from jawp)




2013/8/14 Josh Lim <jamesjoshualim@yahoo.com>
Again, the number is negotiable.  We shouldn't make it too high, but not too low either as so that it's easy to run out of things to do.  Maybe ten articles is more doable?

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Dear all,
I like the idea of working with Wiki articles. But let's begin with small number. 20 seems to be very big number.
Also let's outline and make a framework on how do we outline articles and how to work.

Best,
Ganesh Paudel
Nepal


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:53 PM, jamesjoshualim@yahoo.com <jamesjoshualim@yahoo.com> wrote:
Do each of those languages have a Wikipedia? List composition is left to the national editing communities to decide: they can either make a national list, or make a longer list which combines individual languages' lists. (By language, I mean a Wikipedia which will participate in the program. If, let's say, Konkani or Assamese doesn't want to participate, they are free to do so, but they cannot contribute to the list of articles participating in the program.)

Josh

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Hi, while I wasn't party to the original conversation,  I do have my doubts about this project and its scope in India. We have 20 officially recognised languages in our country. Each. Language has an associated culture with it with is unique.  Could be quite a headache. 
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I was going to suggest something even more modest and have one article per country/language/wiki.  If we can do that minimum successfully then next time we can aim for a higher goal.
Cheers,
Craig
On 12/08/2013 8:08 PM, "Jack LEE" <jacklee@smu.edu.sg> wrote:
Hi,

On the list archives -- OK, though honestly I'm not sure whether I'm prepared to plow through all the archives.

On the cultural exchange programme -- 20 articles per country seems really ambitious, especially if the point was to have some tangible results within three months. I mean, let's say only China, South Korea and the Philippines nominate 20 articles each. That means our friend from Israel who offered to translate these articles for the Hebrew Wikipedia will have 60 articles to translate. I would suggest about two to three articles for a start, and no more than five per country. Finish these first, and then nominate some more.

Cheers,
Jack
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