Hi All,
Now I'm back from Hong Kong, I've had a chance to think a little further
about this, and I really think that we ought to consider basing it upon one
article per *language*, rather than by country. Each Wikipedia should
decide for itself if it wants to participate, and if they do then they get
to suggest one article for translation. That way, if all 22 official
languages of India wish to participate, then they can, because there'll be
22 times as many volunteers! This way minority languages can also get
involved if they wish to, which will be an important consideration perhaps
in places like Indonesia and New Guinea which enjoy much language
diversity. If it's a success with the modest total of one article per
language, then we can think of compiling a list of 20 articles per language
for an expanded second round.
I'm not entirely sure how this would work for countries like mine which
have their own culture but not their own language, perhaps we just suggest
an Australia related article already in English Wikipedia and translate
that to all others. I envision we would promote this as a chapter project
in my country, but this will not be feasible for many other Asian countries
which do not yet have their own chapters or thematic orgs.
What does everyone think?
Cheers,
Craig Franklin
On 14 August 2013 17:34, ksaka98 <ksaka98(a)gmail.com> wrote:
In my opinion,
We start to select one or two articles per lang or country for first step.
At the end of this program, translation should be finished. Because
editors would expect articles to be read in another lang wikis. The fact
that articles of your culture, which you edit, Spread out to many of asian
wikipedias would encourage local editors.
Listing articles in scale of 20 per lang and/or country grows list of
hanreds of articles on asia. If 10 of local wp joins this programme, create
10 article, 100 articles would be created on enwp. Then each wp translate
100 article to their lang. It's not actual number to do, especially smaller
wikis. We want more local wikis to join.
Listing would be another program to do. Listing up would be possible. It
will be a kind of Asian version of "List of articles every Wikipedia
should have". All articles should be created in future.
If we setelct one or two articles, each lang wp community need one or two
user who can translate articles from each lang wiki to enwp. they translate
only one or two articles.
From enwp to each lang wiki, more translator is needed. But translation
from en to each lang is easier than each lang to en.
Articles should be important and familier for each community. It would be
local, regional, wellknown cultural thing or person. So that each
community can easily edit the article, people can join to wikipedia
project, and also easy to search sources which satisfies WP:V and WP:N.
Member of chapters or Mailing list will be able to select articles for
his/her home wiki. Asking community is better.
In my opinion, articles of literatures, musics, or dramas are suitable.
Those things are connected to lang or region. For example, Suwignyo
Adi(Java) is not created article in enwp, Sin Sisamuth(Khmer), Thongchai
McIntyre(Thai) need citation.
Some chapters can challenge edit-thon, or outreach event for GLAMs,
cultural facilities, specialist goup, or overseas workers and/or students
with this program.
Ks aka 98 (from jawp)
2013/8/14 Josh Lim <jamesjoshualim(a)yahoo.com>
Again, the number is negotiable. We
shouldn't make it too high, but not
too low either as so that it's easy to run out of things to do. Maybe ten
articles is more doable?
Josh
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Dear all,
I like the idea of working with Wiki articles. But let's begin with small
number. 20 seems to be very big number.
Also let's outline and make a framework on how do we outline articles and
how to work.
Best,
Ganesh Paudel
Nepal
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:53 PM, jamesjoshualim(a)yahoo.com <
jamesjoshualim(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Do each of those languages have a Wikipedia? List composition is left to
the national editing communities to decide: they can either make a national
list, or make a longer list which combines individual languages' lists. (By
language, I mean a Wikipedia which will participate in the program. If,
let's say, Konkani or Assamese doesn't want to participate, they are free
to do so, but they cannot contribute to the list of articles participating
in the program.)
Josh
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Data: wt., sie 13, 2013 18:45
Hi, while I wasn't party to the original conversation, I do have my
doubts about this project and its scope in India. We have 20 officially
recognised languages in our country. Each. Language has an associated
culture with it with is unique. Could be quite a headache.
Sent from the touchscreen equivalent of a Nokia 1100, pardon the
sender.
--
Srikanth Ramakrishnan,
Treasurer.
On Aug 13, 2013 3:51 PM, "Craig Franklin" <cfranklin(a)halonetwork.net>
wrote:
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Cc:
I was going to suggest something even more modest and have one article
per country/language/wiki. If we can do that minimum successfully then
next time we can aim for a higher goal.
Cheers,
Craig
On 12/08/2013 8:08 PM, "Jack LEE" <jacklee(a)smu.edu.sg> wrote:
Hi,
On the list archives -- OK, though honestly I'm not sure whether I'm
prepared to plow through all the archives.
On the cultural exchange programme -- 20 articles per country seems
really ambitious, especially if the point was to have some tangible results
within three months. I mean, let's say only China, South Korea and the
Philippines nominate 20 articles each. That means our friend from Israel
who offered to translate these articles for the Hebrew Wikipedia will have
60 articles to translate. I would suggest about two to three articles for a
start, and no more than five per country. Finish these first, and then
nominate some more.
Cheers,
Jack
(Use:Smuconlaw)
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