נא להסיר את כתובתי מרשימת מייל זו מיידית.
תודה ושבת שלום.
2011/7/21 Deryck Chan <deryckchan(a)gmail.com>
I must agree with Craig here: that the chapters
conference served only
vegan food this year wasn't a popular decision among southeast Asian
delegates either. You can't please everyone, and it is important to know
whom to please. Avoiding Sabbath and Ramadan is probably a good culturally
aware idea for a Wikimania in Israel; abstinence from pork for a Wikimania
in Poland (there were vegetarian options) probably not.
On Jul 21, 2011 8:27 PM, "Craig Franklin" <craig(a)halo-17.net> wrote:
The problem with what you're proposing is
that everyone has something
don't want to see, and sooner or later
you'll annoy someone by omitting
something they need. Case in point: the recent Chapters conference in
Berlin was vegan food only, which clashed with my cultural requirement to
have fish on a Friday.
You simply can't make everyone happy.
On 21 July 2011 22:22, WereSpielChequers <werespielchequers(a)gmail.com
> The reason why I suggested that we make a commitment that "future
> Wikimanias won't clash with Ramadan or certain other "culturally
> sensitive" dates", Is that as Harel pointed out it isn't just Islam
> that has dates we should avoid (and I appreciate that Muslims are
> exempt from their fast on their way to and from Wikimania). I accept
> that it won't be easy to come up with dates that work for a culturally
> sensitive global organisation, and I'm aware that this isn't the first
> time we've clashed with Ramadan. Globalisation is hard, coming up with
> a midyear date that doesn't clash with anything we don't want to clash
> with will not be easy, but if we truly want to Globalise the pedia we
> should at least try to do this.
> I don't observe Ramadan, or watch sport, and I'm happy to eat pork.
> But if we want future Wikimanias to be open to a truly global
> community then I believe that we should aim for Gdansk to be the last
> Wikimania with Pork on the menu and Haifa the last that clashes with
> any major religious event (I have no objection to a two hour break for
> sports fans provided there is, as at Gdansk, an alternative for the
> sportsphobic amongst us).
> On 20 July 2011 22:41, Casey Brown <lists(a)caseybrown.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Manuel Schneider
> > <manuel.schneider(a)wikimedia.ch> wrote:
> >> We discussed that last year and someone came up with a sensible
> >> If you are travelling during Ramadan, you are excempted from the
> > It should also be noted that Wikimania 2009 also took place during
> > Ramadan, and Wikimania 2012 will miss it by only a few days.
> > There's also already a page on wikimania2011wiki directed at the
> > Muslim Ramadan-observing Wikimaniacs that has been up for almost an
> > entire year (August 2010!).
> > <http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ramadan>
> > Having Wikimania during Ramadan isn't a showstopper... they can still
> > partake in all of the normal Wikimania activities, and this year's
> > Wikimania has already made plans to support them.
> > --
> > Casey Brown
> > Cbrown1023
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