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Deryck Chan

6 Aug 2019 6 Aug '19

10:41 p.m.

Apparently Wikimania will coincide with Surströmming day in Sweden this year [1]. Anyone fancy trying this smelly Swedish delicacy together? (More discreet, private offers to take me to try this fish also welcome. I'm a big fan of Cantonese salted fish [2] so I'm fairly confident I can cope with Surströmming.) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surstr%C3%B6mming [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantonese_salted_fish --Deryck

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Dariusz Jemielniak

6 Aug 6 Aug

10:43 p.m.

Hell, yeah, count me in! Dj "pundit" On Tue, Aug 6, 2019, 18:42 Deryck Chan <deryckchan@gmail.com<mailto:deryckchan@gmail.com>> wrote: Apparently Wikimania will coincide with Surströmming day in Sweden this year [1]. Anyone fancy trying this smelly Swedish delicacy together? (More discreet, private offers to take me to try this fish also welcome. I'm a big fan of Cantonese salted fish [2] so I'm fairly confident I can cope with Surströmming.) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surstr%C3%B6mming [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantonese_salted_fish --Deryck _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org<mailto:Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l

Siebrand Mazeland

10:51 p.m.

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Op 7 aug. 2019 om 00:43 heeft Dariusz Jemielniak <darekj(a)alk.edu.pl> het volgende geschreven: Hell, yeah, count me in! Dj "pundit" > On Tue, Aug 6, 2019, 18:42 Deryck Chan <deryckchan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Apparently Wikimania will coincide with Surströmming day in Sweden this year [1]. Anyone fancy trying this smelly Swedish delicacy together? > > (More discreet, private offers to take me to try this fish also welcome. I'm a big fan of Cantonese salted fish [2] so I'm fairly confident I can cope with Surströmming.) > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surstr%C3%B6mming > > [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantonese_salted_fish

Not sure I can stomach this, but certainly interested to try. Siebrand

Mina Theofilatou

11:05 p.m.

I will try ANYTHING local so yeah, I'm game too! On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 1:51 AM Siebrand Mazeland <siebrand(a)kitano.nl> wrote:

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Op 7 aug. 2019 om 00:43 heeft Dariusz Jemielniak <darekj(a)alk.edu.pl> het volgende geschreven: Hell, yeah, count me in! Dj "pundit" On Tue, Aug 6, 2019, 18:42 Deryck Chan <deryckchan(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Not sure I can stomach this, but certainly interested to try. Siebrand _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l

Abbad Diraneyya

7 Aug 7 Aug

7:46 a.m.

I'm not sure I wanna try it, but all the fuss about the smelly fish 🎏 makes me really curious to come by and make a firsthand observation. ________________________________ From: Wikimania-l <wikimania-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> on behalf of Mina Theofilatou <saintfevrier(a)gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 2:05:56 AM To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) <wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Surströmming I will try ANYTHING local so yeah, I'm game too! On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 1:51 AM Siebrand Mazeland <siebrand@kitano.nl<mailto:siebrand@kitano.nl>> wrote: Op 7 aug. 2019 om 00:43 heeft Dariusz Jemielniak <darekj@alk.edu.pl<mailto:darekj@alk.edu.pl>> het volgende geschreven: Hell, yeah, count me in! Dj "pundit" On Tue, Aug 6, 2019, 18:42 Deryck Chan <deryckchan@gmail.com<mailto:deryckchan@gmail.com>> wrote: Apparently Wikimania will coincide with Surströmming day in Sweden this year [1]. Anyone fancy trying this smelly Swedish delicacy together? (More discreet, private offers to take me to try this fish also welcome. I'm a big fan of Cantonese salted fish [2] so I'm fairly confident I can cope with Surströmming.) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surstr%C3%B6mming [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantonese_salted_fish Not sure I can stomach this, but certainly interested to try. Siebrand _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org<mailto:Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l

Frans Grijzenhout

9 Aug 9 Aug

8:11 a.m.

I'am curious and want to taste it as well, Frans *Frans Grijzenhout*, voorzitter / chair +31 6 5333 9499 -- *Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland* Mariaplaats 3 - 3511 LH Utrecht Kamer van Koophandel 17189036 http://www.wikimedia.nl/ Op wo 7 aug. 2019 om 09:46 schreef Abbad Diraneyya <aaddira(a)hotmail.com>om>:

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I'm not sure I wanna try it, but all the fuss about the smelly fish 🎏 makes me really curious to come by and make a firsthand observation. ------------------------------ *From:* Wikimania-l <wikimania-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> on behalf of Mina Theofilatou <saintfevrier(a)gmail.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 7, 2019 2:05:56 AM *To:* Wikimania general list (open subscription) < wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimania-l] Surströmming I will try ANYTHING local so yeah, I'm game too! On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 1:51 AM Siebrand Mazeland <siebrand(a)kitano.nl> wrote: Op 7 aug. 2019 om 00:43 heeft Dariusz Jemielniak <darekj(a)alk.edu.pl> het volgende geschreven: Hell, yeah, count me in! Dj "pundit" On Tue, Aug 6, 2019, 18:42 Deryck Chan <deryckchan(a)gmail.com> wrote: Apparently Wikimania will coincide with Surströmming day in Sweden this year [1]. Anyone fancy trying this smelly Swedish delicacy together? (More discreet, private offers to take me to try this fish also welcome. I'm a big fan of Cantonese salted fish [2] so I'm fairly confident I can cope with Surströmming.) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surstr%C3%B6mming [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantonese_salted_fish Not sure I can stomach this, but certainly interested to try. Siebrand _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l

Douglas Scott

10:14 a.m.

I want to see if I can get a can or two of it to do a tasting in South Africa. On Fri, 09 Aug 2019, 10:39 Frans Grijzenhout, <frans(a)wikimedia.nl> wrote:

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Philip Kopetzky

10:43 a.m.

I'm pretty sure it's a forbidden item on some airlines ;-) https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/europe/sweden/articles/sour… On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 at 11:14, Douglas Scott <douglas.i.scott(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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I want to see if I can get a can or two of it to do a tasting in South Africa. On Fri, 09 Aug 2019, 10:39 Frans Grijzenhout, <frans(a)wikimedia.nl> wrote:

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Wanda GUMA

11:09 a.m.

Yes, Douglas please nring somewith you to Mzansi. I'm sure in Langa we'd also like to experience this "snoek" competing fish, especially forthose who won't be able to make it to Sweden. Regards, Wanda Guma Cape Town, South Africa +27 (0)62 119 6980 On Fri, Aug 9, 2019, 12:15 Douglas Scott <douglas.i.scott(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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I want to see if I can get a can or two of it to do a tasting in South Africa. On Fri, 09 Aug 2019, 10:39 Frans Grijzenhout, <frans(a)wikimedia.nl> wrote:

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Peter Southwood

12:34 p.m.

The airline may not allow it to be transported. The cans build up pressure and the amount is not known. Also you can imagine the complaints if one of the tins burst in the hold. On the other hand, think of the fun if customs decided to open it. Whatever you do, don’t try to take any into Australia. They would probably jail you and throw away the key. Cheers, Peter From: Wikimania-l [mailto:wikimania-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Wanda GUMA Sent: 09 August 2019 13:09 To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Surströmming Yes, Douglas please nring somewith you to Mzansi. I'm sure in Langa we'd also like to experience this "snoek" competing fish, especially forthose who won't be able to make it to Sweden. Regards, Wanda Guma Cape Town, South Africa +27 (0)62 119 6980 On Fri, Aug 9, 2019, 12:15 Douglas Scott <douglas.i.scott(a)gmail.com> wrote: I want to see if I can get a can or two of it to do a tasting in South Africa. On Fri, 09 Aug 2019, 10:39 Frans Grijzenhout, <frans(a)wikimedia.nl> wrote: I'am curious and want to taste it as well, Frans Frans Grijzenhout, voorzitter / chair +31 6 5333 9499 -- Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland Mariaplaats 3 - 3511 LH Utrecht Kamer van Koophandel 17189036 <http://www.wikimedia.nl/> http://www.wikimedia.nl/ Op wo 7 aug. 2019 om 09:46 schreef Abbad Diraneyya <aaddira(a)hotmail.com>om>: I'm not sure I wanna try it, but all the fuss about the smelly fish 🎏 makes me really curious to come by and make a firsthand observation. _____ From: Wikimania-l <wikimania-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> on behalf of Mina Theofilatou <saintfevrier(a)gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 2:05:56 AM To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) <wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Surströmming I will try ANYTHING local so yeah, I'm game too! On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 1:51 AM Siebrand Mazeland <siebrand(a)kitano.nl> wrote: Op 7 aug. 2019 om 00:43 heeft Dariusz Jemielniak <darekj(a)alk.edu.pl> het volgende geschreven: Hell, yeah, count me in! Dj "pundit" On Tue, Aug 6, 2019, 18:42 Deryck Chan <deryckchan(a)gmail.com> wrote: Apparently Wikimania will coincide with Surströmming day in Sweden this year [1]. Anyone fancy trying this smelly Swedish delicacy together? (More discreet, private offers to take me to try this fish also welcome. I'm a big fan of Cantonese salted fish [2] so I'm fairly confident I can cope with Surströmming.) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surstr%C3%B6mming [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantonese_salted_fish Not sure I can stomach this, but certainly interested to try. Siebrand _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> Image removed by sender. Virus-free. <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> www.avg.com

Maximilian Marx

11:17 a.m.

Hi, On Tue, Aug 06, 2019 at 11:41:39PM +0100, Deryck Chan wrote:

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Apparently Wikimania will coincide with Surströmming day in Sweden this year [1]. Anyone fancy trying this smelly Swedish delicacy together?

sounds interesting, count me in. Maximilian

Johan Jönsson

1:17 p.m.

So the best way to do this is probably to find a restaurant or some other place that will serve you surströmming, but should anyone get a can, do *not* open it indoors and preferably keep the can submerged in water when you open it. Fermentation continues in the can, which builds some pressure, and upon opening it might greet you like the enthusiastic sprout of a whale breathing out. Of course, not being hit by the full force of the smell takes away some of the memorable, exotic part of it, but that way, you'll experience it as reasonably normal food rather than a potentially vomiting-inducing aroma. //Johan Jönsson -- On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 12:42 AM Deryck Chan <deryckchan(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Siebrand Mazeland

1:34 p.m.

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Op 9 aug. 2019 om 15:17 heeft Johan Jönsson <jjonsson(a)wikimedia.org> het volgende geschreven: So the best way to do this is probably to find a restaurant or some other place that will serve you surströmming

I’d imagine this will dramatically change the budget for the activity — I imagined it would be a volunteer organized activity, like some beer tastings have been done in the past, and will be done again in Stockholm. Traditional “special” foods are generally sold at ludicrous prices, and Sweden isn’t known to be cheap already as far as I’ve heard. Can you make an estimate of how much the experience might set us back? Cheers! Siebrand

Eric Luth

2:14 p.m.

Dear all, Wikimedia Sverige will take care of this, and invite Wikimania attendees to a proper surströmmingsprovning <https://translate.google.se/#view=home&op=translate&sl=auto&tl=en&text=surstr%C3%B6mmingsprovning> during Wikimania. We will provide you with more information next week. Best, *Eric Luth* Conference Manager, Wikimedia Sverige eric.luth(a)wikimedia.se +46 (0) 765 55 50 95 Stöd fri kunskap, bli medlem i Wikimedia Sverige. Läs mer på blimedlem.wikimedia.se Den fre 9 aug. 2019 kl 15:35 skrev Siebrand Mazeland <siebrand(a)kitano.nl>nl>:

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So the best way to do this is probably to find a restaurant or some

other place that will serve you surströmming I’d imagine this will dramatically change the budget for the activity — I imagined it would be a volunteer organized activity, like some beer tastings have been done in the past, and will be done again in Stockholm. Traditional “special” foods are generally sold at ludicrous prices, and Sweden isn’t known to be cheap already as far as I’ve heard. Can you make an estimate of how much the experience might set us back? Cheers! Siebrand _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l

Siebrand Mazeland

2:21 p.m.

Op vr 9 aug. 2019 om 16:14 schreef Eric Luth <eric.luth(a)wikimedia.se>

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Great news and a great offer, Eric. Thank you. I’m looking forward to the stinkiest Wikimedia session to date! Cheers! Siebrand

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Deryck Chan

29 Aug 29 Aug

5:30 p.m.

The surströmming session was amazing. Thank you Mattias and hosts :D On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 at 15:22, Siebrand Mazeland <siebrand(a)kitano.nl> wrote:

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Op vr 9 aug. 2019 om 16:14 schreef Eric Luth <eric.luth(a)wikimedia.se>

Great news and a great offer, Eric. Thank you. I’m looking forward to the stinkiest Wikimedia session to date! Cheers! Siebrand

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Samat

7:13 p.m.

Yeh, the stongest memory from Wikimania in Stockholm ;) Thank you for that! Samat On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 at 19:31, Deryck Chan <deryckchan(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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The surströmming session was amazing. Thank you Mattias and hosts :D

Liz 99

8:53 p.m.

My family traveled to Sweden 3 years ago & they are now jealous that they didn't get Surstromming when they visited summer 2016! Liz On Thu, Aug 29, 2019, 12:14 PM Samat <samat78(a)gmail.com wrote:

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Yeh, the stongest memory from Wikimania in Stockholm ;) Thank you for that! Samat On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 at 19:31, Deryck Chan <deryckchan(a)gmail.com> wrote:

The surströmming session was amazing. Thank you Mattias and hosts :D _______________________________________________

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Mina Theofilatou

30 Aug 30 Aug

6:43 a.m.

I am devastated for having missed the surstromming session :-( :-( :-( At around 4 I walked into the coolest tool awards (which were great BTW) and I got so carried away I totally forgot about the surstromming... I made a desperate effort to get hold of some surstromming at the airport and indeed it is true, it's not available for the known reasons... (I bought a jar of pickled herring instead). So, did anyone actually LIKE it??? <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 11:54 PM Liz 99 <liz99.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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My family traveled to Sweden 3 years ago & they are now jealous that they didn't get Surstromming when they visited summer 2016! Liz On Thu, Aug 29, 2019, 12:14 PM Samat <samat78(a)gmail.com wrote:

Yeh, the stongest memory from Wikimania in Stockholm ;) Thank you for that! Samat On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 at 19:31, Deryck Chan <deryckchan(a)gmail.com> wrote:

The surströmming session was amazing. Thank you Mattias and hosts :D _______________________________________________

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Deryck Chan

11:30 a.m.

I liked it! I wanted a second helping but it all ran out before everyone had had a go! On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 at 07:44, Mina Theofilatou <saintfevrier(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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I am devastated for having missed the surstromming session :-( :-( :-( At around 4 I walked into the coolest tool awards (which were great BTW) and I got so carried away I totally forgot about the surstromming... I made a desperate effort to get hold of some surstromming at the airport and indeed it is true, it's not available for the known reasons... (I bought a jar of pickled herring instead). So, did anyone actually LIKE it??? <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#m_1460578804452180889_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 11:54 PM Liz 99 <liz99.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

My family traveled to Sweden 3 years ago & they are now jealous that they didn't get Surstromming when they visited summer 2016! Liz On Thu, Aug 29, 2019, 12:14 PM Samat <samat78(a)gmail.com wrote:

Yeh, the stongest memory from Wikimania in Stockholm ;) Thank you for that! Samat On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 at 19:31, Deryck Chan <deryckchan(a)gmail.com> wrote:

The surströmming session was amazing. Thank you Mattias and hosts :D _______________________________________________

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Abbad Diraneyya
Dariusz Jemielniak
Deryck Chan
Douglas Scott
Eric Luth
Frans Grijzenhout
Johan Jönsson
Liz 99
Maximilian Marx
Mina Theofilatou
Peter Southwood
Philip Kopetzky
Samat
Siebrand Mazeland
Wanda GUMA