On 22 January 2013 10:38, Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com> wrote: I Do enough people use Google+ to make it worthwhile?

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besides, I think the biggest problem is the Google + still didn't open its API for sync post so usually, WMHK's messages are sync on Twitter and Facebook, but google +... anyway we try to find a smart way to deal with that

On Tuesday, January 22, 2013, Andrew Lih wrote: Not this kind of API you're looking for on a platform like google+? What else you're looking for? https://developers.google.com/+/ So besides being third to the race, they're also limiting their exposure by not providing an API. Are we the one not using the API , or they don't provide the API? Its just a point of correction though. ;) Putting all things said above aside, at least, just as WMF/Wikipedia/some wiki chapters have got a g+ page, it will be nice for wikimania to have one too. Whether g+ is lagging behind or is a loser, at least, they deserve a wikimania page, at least. For an individual, i think its a personal preference to join g+. but for wikimania, i think there's no excuse about that. -- +Rexford | +Blender Academy _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l

Having to manually update Google+ is a serious negative for its use: volunteer time is a very precious resource. Simply because other groups (most of which have paid employees) are doing it doesn't mean that every group ought to invest its limited resources in doing so. It's not a popular site, it's resource-intensive to maintain, and most of the target audience on Google+ is also present on at least one of the other locations that are regularly being maintained. I'd not consider it a priority. Risker/Anne

Thanks for the clarification on the G+ -- there are severe API limitations and not the lack of an API entirely. On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Daniel Schwen <lists(a)schwen.de> wrote: Unfortunately at this point the Google+ API is ''read-only''. So it is not feasible to develop social media clients that automatically post to Google+. I guess that is what Andrew et al meant. On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com> wrote: _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- -Andrew Lih Associate professor of journalism USC Annenberg School of Communication and Journalism Email: andrew(a)andrewlih.com WEB: http://www.andrewlih.com BOOK: The Wikipedia Revolution: http:/www.wikipediarevolution.com PROJECT: WikiFactcheck: http://wikifactcheck.org/wiki _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l

Unfortunately at this point the Google+ API is ''read-only''. So it is not feasible to develop social media clients that automatically post to Google+. I guess that is what Andrew et al meant. On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com> wrote: google exposure by one _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l

I wish to learn about how *much *(in $) it cost the managers of Wikimedia Foundation and Wikipedia page on Google+ submit a single post. The instance of time and resources chipped into the act of having a page on Google+, i think doesn't hold. How long will it cost the one posting onto the fb and twitter platforms (in terms of time and energy) to copy, paste and share that same post on Google+? I kind of feel surprised at how time and resources are raised as if its gonna cost WMF 10s of 1000s of dollars to implement that. @James Wikimania DC had no presence on G+. At least, i think Wikimania HK can break that record! The idea of api limitations etc, well, fine! how does that prevent cross-platform posting? There are so many handy and easy-to-use tools available to facilitate that, irrespective of Google not having one themselves. In fact, if *there's the will, there's a way* * * I guess, i kind of sense a bit of personal preference in these platforms selection other than seeing them as they should be seen. Critically looking, I can also say that cross posting onto twitter from fb is not necessary since all (if not almost) the users on twitter who follow Wikimania are on fb. i hope this issue is seen as it should, other than concentrating on google's api's, and other factors, that to me, are baseless. On Tuesday, January 22, 2013, John Vandenberg wrote: -- +Rexford <https://plus.google.com/107174506890941499078> | +Blender Academy<https://plus.google.com/b/103109918657638322478/1031099186576383… _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l

On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Nkansah Rexford < nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', &#39;nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com&#39;);&gt;&gt; wrote: Nkansah, if you volunteer to maintain a G+ page for Wikimania HK, or set up replication from Facebook, I'm sure the organizers will accept gratefully :)

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FYI As reports the G.I.W., "Google grows to become 2nd largest social platform globally." - http://goo.gl/tNWEm "Google+, who despite being branded a failure or ghost town by large portions of the media, grew in terms of active usage by 27% to 343m users to become the number 2 social platform. Interestingly for Google," Trust me, in 1 more year time, Google+ will be the world's number one most used social media platform platform. The earlier Wikimania jumps onto g+ *faithfully and continually, *the better. Practically, i hardly see a future in twitter, even facebook is better. Just a note for those underestimating g+ rex On Wednesday, January 23, 2013, Nkansah Rexford wrote: -- +Rexford <https://plus.google.com/107174506890941499078> | +Blender Academy<https://plus.google.com/b/103109918657638322478/1031099186576383… _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l

@Thomas I'm not good g+ stats though but as at beginning of this year there were 400M+ of users on G+. Not many that deserves a wikimania page? On Tuesday, January 22, 2013, Thomas Dalton wrote: On 22 January 2013 10:38, Nkansah Rexford &lt;nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Do enough people use Google+ to make it worthwhile? _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- +Rexford | +Blender Academy _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l

On 22 January 2013 12:32, Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford@gmail.com<javascript:;>> wrote: I question that statistic. How many of those are people that were automatically registered by Google but have never actually done anything on the site? _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l