Hello,
UK confirmed it will collect in cash, 3k pounds from citizens from what she calls 'High Risk' countries including India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Ghana.
In case persons from these countries should apply for the conference (of which some will definitely) next year, will they have to pay this sum themselves?
I'm raising this issue early because for at least, two consecutive times, persons from Ghana couldn't make it to a Wikimania, all because of visa-related issues in different forms.
I'm sure the WMUK knows of this policy from the Immigration of UK, and I wish to find out what their thoughts about it are.
Can I say, persons from these countries are practically banned from next years event?
thank you
The news item: http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/after-india-protests-uk-says-no-final-deci...
On Thursday, June 27, 2013, Nkansah Rexford wrote:
Hello,
UK confirmed it will collect in cash, 3k pounds from citizens from what she calls 'High Risk' countries including India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Ghana.
In case persons from these countries should apply for the conference (of which some will definitely) next year, will they have to pay this sum themselves?
I'm raising this issue early because for at least, two consecutive times, persons from Ghana couldn't make it to a Wikimania, all because of visa-related issues in different forms.
I'm sure the WMUK knows of this policy from the Immigration of UK, and I wish to find out what their thoughts about it are.
Can I say, persons from these countries are practically banned from next years event?
thank you
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On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com wrote:
The news item: http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/after-india-protests-uk-says-no-final-deci...
"The government intends to run a pilot scheme for such bonds, tightly targeted at a small number of visa applicants assessed to pose a high risk of overstaying."
That suggests that they'll only ask for a bond from people that are from those countries *and* are deemed to be "high-risk", not from everyone from those countries. I would guess that in the current system (without bonds), these people would be very likely to have their visa denied anyway.
That said, the news articles I've read about this aren't very clear, which suggests the government hasn't been very clear about what its plans are.
Roan
Indeed, this hasn't made the news very much in the UK, and I can't find any mention of it on government websites... My understanding is that, under the plans, high risk (and first time) entrants from particular countries will need to pay a bond/surety in order to enter. However, the UK government is currently a slightly shaky coalition - very unusual for British politics - and it appears that this policy is being reconsidered, after the minority party in the coalition raised concerns. See http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/25/nick-clegg-visa-bond-theresa-may for more - the entire plan may well be scrapped, or the fee dropped to a sensible level. London is a very diverse city - my local area has Bengali as a first language (about 80% speak it) - and so understandably this policy is not very popular in the capital.
The bid team (who are independent from, but friendly with, Wikimedia UK) are working closely with London & Partners, who are the official tourist agency for London. L&P deal in part with fast-tracking visa applicants from around the world to bring them to major UK events - L&P are very, very keen on bringing Wikipedia to London, and they have the backing of the UK government to do so. They already have the connections and the experience needed to make this happen - they did it for the Olympics and other major events, and I am certain they will do it for Wikimania if they have to.
Sufficed to say that although we can't *promise* anything - I can assure you that the bid team will do everything they can feasibly do to help bring people to London. I will bring this up with the bid co-ordinators when next I meet them.
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On 27 June 2013 20:59, Roan Kattouw roan.kattouw@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com wrote:
The news item:
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/after-india-protests-uk-says-no-final-deci...
"The government intends to run a pilot scheme for such bonds, tightly targeted at a small number of visa applicants assessed to pose a high risk of overstaying."
That suggests that they'll only ask for a bond from people that are from those countries *and* are deemed to be "high-risk", not from everyone from those countries. I would guess that in the current system (without bonds), these people would be very likely to have their visa denied anyway.
That said, the news articles I've read about this aren't very clear, which suggests the government hasn't been very clear about what its plans are.
Roan
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