I'm a great believer in the theory that Wikipedia
participation in any
particular country is in large part a function of the Internet access
there. So countries like North Korea that blcck the Internet will be
holes in our participation, as will be countries that block Wikipedia.
Elsewhere it depends partly on the amount of free and fast access to
the Internet as opposed to slow access and people who pay per mb
rather than per month; and partly on the local speed of accessing
Wikipedia - excellent if you are connected to a part of the Internet
that has a good connection to Florida, pretty good if you are close to
the squid servers in Amsterdam, very slow in much of the global south.
Which is a very long way of asking if anyone knows what Internet and
specifically Wikipedia access is like in Gaza and the Westbank and
whether there are any Government filters in place. There is not much
point arguing that israel would give visas to Palestinian wikimedians
if it turns out that the siege of Gaza or the wall partitioning the
West bank included Israeli restrictions on Internet access that
prevented their being Palestinian Wikimedians..... conversely if Hamas
bans Wikipedia in Gaza then it wouldn't matter whether Wikimania was
in Haifa, Mecca or Port Stanley, there still wouldn't be any
Wikimedians coming from Gaza.
WereSpielChequers
2011/6/29 KIZU Naoko <aphaia(a)gmail.com>om>:
Oops I forgot to insert some words. Let me
correct:
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 8:24 AM, KIZU Naoko <aphaia(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I don't recall any Arabic participants in Boston, in Taiwan either
(they decided not to show from their own reason), many in Alexandria
but not so many from outside of Egypt, no Palestinians but two
Israelis,
in Gdansk,
one Syrian and one Irani (our steward) ...... iirc there
were some Jordanian somewhere, iirc in several
Wikimanias but not sure
in which ones.
And from time to time, as Transcom member, I heard there were no or
very a little Palestinian contributors to Arabic Wikipedia. It is sad
we haven't successful to get them in Wikimedia universe, and there
will be some reasons but I presume it'll be more complicated than a
certain organization hinders or whatever.
Cheers,
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 6:01 AM, WereSpielChequers
<werespielchequers(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I don't remember meeting any Palestinians at
the last two Wikimanias
either, so if there are no Palestinians coming despite the geography
then that is unfortunate. But if we can honestly say that no
Palestinians tried to come but were unable to get visas then I am
somewhat reassured, and thanks for trying to find some.
However I am worried at the attendance from the wider Islamic world,
and of course attendance in general. How does this compare to previous
years?
WereSpielChequers
On 28 June 2011 20:53, Kim Bruning <kim(a)bruning.xs4all.nl> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:20:11PM +0300, Harel Cain wrote:
>> Rather read it as "we looked for Palestinian wikimedians all over the place
>> for over a year; apparently they're not very easy to find".
>
> Ok, that's definitely a very different narrative than either BDS's claims,
> or what I was hoping myself (to wit, that local people just tend to register pretty
> late, because they don't need to plan ahead as far.)
>
> <scratches head>
>
> Thanks for answering my questions so far!
>
> sincerely,
> Kim Bruning
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