heh, so true, it's just informations... 

Say, is UAE pretty far from your place?

2011/11/2 Mardetanha <mardetanha.wiki@gmail.com>
I am afriad that virtual embassy also issues virtual visas. it still just a word nothing solid yet
Mardetanha


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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:31:37 +0000
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Sorry Roan, I wanted to say the same thing you did but i failed.

2nd attempt: Citizens from any other country, with a canadian visa, still
need a USA visa to get into USA.

Or more detailed in Roan's mail ;)
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On 2 November 2011 10:35, Roan Kattouw <roan.kattouw@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:04 AM, B?ria Lima <berialima@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Justin, canadians also need visa to be in USA, so ask for a canandian
> visa
> > doesn't help.
> Canadians don't need a visa for most short visits. But by "Canadians"
> I mean people with a Canadian passport. If you have a Brazilian
> passport, it doesn't matter how you enter the US (by air, land or sea,
> directly from Brazil or via Canada), you will need a US visa. A
> Canadian visa won't help you get into the US at all: the US and Canada
> are separate countries with border controls between them (the border
> isn't open like the one between the UK and Ireland, or the borders
> between Schengen countries in Europe).
>
> That said, I hear it's possible to get a visa from a US consulate in
> Canada, which I presume will have shorter waiting times than some
> consulates elsewhere. But this is probably not allowed in most
> circumstances if you're not a Canadian citizen. In the OP's case where
> his country of citizenship doesn't have a consulate or embassy and
> he's gonna have to apply in a third country anyway, it might just be
> allowed, I guess. But Canada is a lot farther from Iran than Turkey or
> the UAE and doesn't have visa-free travel for Iranians either, so
> you'd have to get a visa in order to get a visa :P . I wouldn't know
> what sort of choice you have in choosing the country where you apply
> for a visa and whether you're allowed to apply in a country farther
> away from Iran where waiting times are shorter. You should probably
> talk to an immigration lawyer about that sort of thing.
>
> Roan
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From: Justin Quintal <cestmoijustin@gmail.com>
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Yeah, i heard that USA is going to open a virtual embassy for Iran...

2011/11/2 B?ria Lima <berialima@gmail.com>

> Sorry Roan, I wanted to say the same thing you did but i failed.
>
> 2nd attempt: Citizens from any other country, with a canadian visa,
> still  need a USA visa to get into USA.
>
> Or more detailed in Roan's mail ;)
>
> _____
> *B?ria Lima*
> <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484
>
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> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
> estamos a fazer <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos>.*
>
>
> On 2 November 2011 10:35, Roan Kattouw <roan.kattouw@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:04 AM, B?ria Lima <berialima@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Justin, canadians also need visa to be in USA, so ask for a canandian
>> visa
>> > doesn't help.
>> Canadians don't need a visa for most short visits. But by "Canadians"
>> I mean people with a Canadian passport. If you have a Brazilian
>> passport, it doesn't matter how you enter the US (by air, land or sea,
>> directly from Brazil or via Canada), you will need a US visa. A
>> Canadian visa won't help you get into the US at all: the US and Canada
>> are separate countries with border controls between them (the border
>> isn't open like the one between the UK and Ireland, or the borders
>> between Schengen countries in Europe).
>>
>> That said, I hear it's possible to get a visa from a US consulate in
>> Canada, which I presume will have shorter waiting times than some
>> consulates elsewhere. But this is probably not allowed in most
>> circumstances if you're not a Canadian citizen. In the OP's case where
>> his country of citizenship doesn't have a consulate or embassy and
>> he's gonna have to apply in a third country anyway, it might just be
>> allowed, I guess. But Canada is a lot farther from Iran than Turkey or
>> the UAE and doesn't have visa-free travel for Iranians either, so
>> you'd have to get a visa in order to get a visa :P . I wouldn't know
>> what sort of choice you have in choosing the country where you apply
>> for a visa and whether you're allowed to apply in a country farther
>> away from Iran where waiting times are shorter. You should probably
>> talk to an immigration lawyer about that sort of thing.
>>
>> Roan
>>
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Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 02:28:57 +0300
From: Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre@live.co.uk>
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in some months?

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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 19:26:11 -0400
From: cestmoijustin@gmail.com
To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4

Yeah, i heard that USA is going to open a virtual embassy for Iran...

2011/11/2 B?ria Lima <berialima@gmail.com>

Sorry Roan, I wanted to say the same thing you did but i failed.

2nd attempt: Citizens from any other country, with a canadian visa, still  need a USA visa to get into USA.



Or more detailed in Roan's mail ;)_____
B?ria Lima
(351) 925 171 484


Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que estamos a fazer.





On 2 November 2011 10:35, Roan Kattouw <roan.kattouw@gmail.com> wrote:


On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:04 AM, B?ria Lima <berialima@gmail.com> wrote:

> Justin, canadians also need visa to be in USA, so ask for a canandian visa

> doesn't help.

Canadians don't need a visa for most short visits. But by "Canadians"

I mean people with a Canadian passport. If you have a Brazilian

passport, it doesn't matter how you enter the US (by air, land or sea,

directly from Brazil or via Canada), you will need a US visa. A

Canadian visa won't help you get into the US at all: the US and Canada

are separate countries with border controls between them (the border

isn't open like the one between the UK and Ireland, or the borders

between Schengen countries in Europe).



That said, I hear it's possible to get a visa from a US consulate in

Canada, which I presume will have shorter waiting times than some

consulates elsewhere. But this is probably not allowed in most

circumstances if you're not a Canadian citizen. In the OP's case where

his country of citizenship doesn't have a consulate or embassy and

he's gonna have to apply in a third country anyway, it might just be

allowed, I guess. But Canada is a lot farther from Iran than Turkey or

the UAE and doesn't have visa-free travel for Iranians either, so

you'd have to get a visa in order to get a visa :P . I wouldn't know

what sort of choice you have in choosing the country where you apply

for a visa and whether you're allowed to apply in a country farther

away from Iran where waiting times are shorter. You should probably

talk to an immigration lawyer about that sort of thing.



Roan



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end of 2011 according to sources.

2011/11/2 Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre@live.co.uk>

>  in some months?
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> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 19:26:11 -0400
> From: cestmoijustin@gmail.com
> To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4
>
> Yeah, i heard that USA is going to open a virtual embassy for Iran...
>
> 2011/11/2 B?ria Lima <berialima@gmail.com>
>
> Sorry Roan, I wanted to say the same thing you did but i failed.
>
> 2nd attempt: Citizens from any other country, with a canadian visa,
> still  need a USA visa to get into USA.
>
> Or more detailed in Roan's mail ;)
>
> _____
> *B?ria Lima*
> <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484
>
> *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
> estamos a fazer <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos>.*
>
>
> On 2 November 2011 10:35, Roan Kattouw <roan.kattouw@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:04 AM, B?ria Lima <berialima@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Justin, canadians also need visa to be in USA, so ask for a canandian
> visa
> > doesn't help.
> Canadians don't need a visa for most short visits. But by "Canadians"
> I mean people with a Canadian passport. If you have a Brazilian
> passport, it doesn't matter how you enter the US (by air, land or sea,
> directly from Brazil or via Canada), you will need a US visa. A
> Canadian visa won't help you get into the US at all: the US and Canada
> are separate countries with border controls between them (the border
> isn't open like the one between the UK and Ireland, or the borders
> between Schengen countries in Europe).
>
> That said, I hear it's possible to get a visa from a US consulate in
> Canada, which I presume will have shorter waiting times than some
> consulates elsewhere. But this is probably not allowed in most
> circumstances if you're not a Canadian citizen. In the OP's case where
> his country of citizenship doesn't have a consulate or embassy and
> he's gonna have to apply in a third country anyway, it might just be
> allowed, I guess. But Canada is a lot farther from Iran than Turkey or
> the UAE and doesn't have visa-free travel for Iranians either, so
> you'd have to get a visa in order to get a visa :P . I wouldn't know
> what sort of choice you have in choosing the country where you apply
> for a visa and whether you're allowed to apply in a country farther
> away from Iran where waiting times are shorter. You should probably
> talk to an immigration lawyer about that sort of thing.
>
> Roan
>
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