Hi Gnagarra,

if you want to make a proposal to host wikimania - please do. There's a whole package of things to consider though, not just visa. 

Otherwise, I think it is mostly distractingin this contest to hear people 'brag' about their own country's visa policy. If that is a topic you want to start, I suggest you branch off the discussion, into something like 'visa in my country are super easy'. 
(and this is equally valid for all other people from other countries that like to share about their visa policies)


On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 2:09 AM, Gnangarra <gnangarra@gmail.com> wrote:
Unfair to say Australia is the least friendly country as the Australian Customs and Border protection has a whole dedicated process for conferences https://www.border.gov.au/Busi/Trav/Conf that enable processing of visa regardless of country by the organisors.   That over 100 countries can apply electronically for a visitor visa with most applications process within 72 hours  but what would I know having only worked in the tourism industry for 30 years that couldnt be found out by putting poor research om 3rd party sites as facts. 

On 3 July 2017 at 06:03, Mykola Kozlenko <mycola-k@ukr.net> wrote:

For the sake of the discussion on "it's way better in my country", please look what your country's visa policy really is. For instance, check https://www.passportindex.org/byWelcomingRank.php or relative (English) Wikipedia articles. The former gives the following figures:
(Five latest Wikimania hosts)
* Canada: 51 country can enter visa-free, visa on arrival, ETA or equivalent
* Mexico: 67
* UK: 91
* Italy: 93
* Hong Kong: 144
(Some other countries mentioned here)
* Australia: 34
* Thailand: 78
* Israel: 96

Yes, that means that Canada is the least visa-friendly Wikimania host in the last 5 years. And yes, Thailand is less visa-friendly than the UK. And yes, Australia is the least visa-friendly country with an established Wikimedia chapter.

Thus please do refer to facts when qualifying a country as a visa-friendly or not, and not to your own perception of a country's visa policy.

Mykola (NickK)

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Am 02.07.2017 um 13:37 schrieb cs:
>  a country like  Thailand where I  live

you mean a country which is currently a military dictatorship (for the
second time in 10 years)? A country that was THIS close to a open civil
war? And if not a civil war, maybe a real war with Cambodia?

Visa problems are problematic, but it is 10 times better than to give
the Wikimania to an instable country – we are not the FIFA.


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