Dear Subhashish,
According to you, making noise about your contributions is more important than actually doing the things. I have been saying this for quite some time – it is always the talkers who get noticed and get credited while doers keep doing silently. So one has to be more active in social media, writing blogs, getting mentioned in English media, etc. Thanks for enlightening.
Regards,
Pavanaja
From: Wikimania-l [mailto:wikimania-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Subhashish Panigrahi
Sent: 19 April 2017 10:26 AM
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I too can't agree with Risker more on the privacy aspects. Also, it's important to respect those handful of community members that were part of the scholarship committee would have spent hours evaluating a few thousand applications, and the WMF staff who were part of it. If I can summarize what a former committee member shared on Facebook some time ago - a lot of deserving Wikimedians do not get a scholarship. But it's almost impossible for the committee to make everything right. Also many deserving applicants miss out communicating their contribution clearly which doesn't leave the committee to evaluate their applications with a full knowledge of those applicants' contribution. Being a great contributor is one thing, and being able to communicate one's contribution with context to someone less familiar with a contributor's home community is another thing. When this situation can be made better by creating learning patterns and other learning documents so that many contributors, especially those whose native language is not English can be benefited, it is NOT OK to share awarded/rejected application details. Wikimedians and many others that are trying to do the right thing by sharing knowledge are already in risk because of their public writing. It will be insane to put them in more risk. A former colleague and a fellow Wikimedian and I received legal threats once from someone who was failing to retain a Wikipedia article, and it made me scared even though I was working in an organization full of lawyers.
Let's assume some good faith here, and better the resources that would be useful for many applicants for the coming years.
Subhashish
Agree with what Risker said above, that it's hard to get community members to volunteer for these committees. That's the easiest way to get involved if you don't think the process is going well.
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 9:04 PM, Risker <risker.wp@gmail.com> wrote:
Pavajana, it's the user names that are confidential in this case. Nothing stops unsuccessful candidates from publishing their own names, if they wish. How many do you think will do that?
Risker/Anne
On 18 April 2017 at 23:56, Dr. U.B. Pavanaja <pavanaja@vishvakannada.com> wrote:
Wikimedia contributions are public numbers. If username is known, all contributions can be found out. What is secrecy in that? Only thing not disclosed is how the evaluations are done. This should be made public, since the entire movement is run by public funding.
Regards,
Pavanaja
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Contributions is such wide term are you talking about edits in projects or work on the ground in assisting others, what about the unseen work like supporting an affiliate to be successful or a GLAM to open up its resources
When talking about edits is a photo uploaded to commons worth more because its used in multiple projects than some one who starts an article in one language, does an english wp edit have a greater weigh over a french wp edit because it has more potential viewers or does a noongar wp edit in the incubator which is opening access to a whole new culture and language to the movement have greater value.
Issue around the fair balance across communities of access to Wikimania is also a question does a country with well financed chapter have less to contribute compared to a country closer but limited finanaces, does a counrty where it'll cost 5-10,000 US$ for each attendee deserve greater numbers supported because its not possible for people to attend over a country that the cost is less than US$1000, would 10 people attending be better than 1 person attending.
Does a country with 20 million people deserve to 1/10th the amount of attendees of a country with 200million people. Every one contributes in the way they feel most comfortable and safe. For some time is unlimited for others time contributing is a constant risk there is no way we as community can openly value these, the committee does the best it can with the knowledge presented to them by the candidates.... Whether we agree with the decisions of the committee or not the individuals should not be subject to the vitriol that the community can and does hand out regularly nor should they be put at excessive risk for what they have done.
A list of everyone who accepts a scholarship enables transparency in ensuring reporting from those people, but even that can carry a risk for them. Putting contributions how ever its defined increases the risk of harm both from within the community and from outside, doing harm to satisfy curiosity isnt acceptable
On 19 April 2017 at 10:51, Dr. U.B. Pavanaja <pavanaja@vishvakannada.com> wrote:
Hello,
I would like WMF to make the list of applicants, their contributions, the weightage used for each kind of contribution and the final list of scholarship awardees in a table form. Since WMF is run by the contributions of the volunteers, such a transparency is definitely needed from WMF. I hope WMF will oblige.
Regards,
Pavanaja
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Sent: 19 April 2017 01:23 AM
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Everyone who applied for a scholarship to Wikimania '17 has been notified about the status. If you have not heard, please check your spam filter, or send email to ask about the status to: wikimaniascholarships@wikimedia.org
April 18 is the deadline for people who were offered a scholarship to respond.
A final list of everyone who was awarded and able to accept will be posted to on the wiki in early May.
We expect registration for Wikimania '17 to go live on or before May 1st.
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