I agree..Israel = apartheid... See what they did to the humanitarian aid boats towards the Gaza Strip...

2011/3/31 Han-Teng Liao <hanteng@gmail.com>
"2007: Taipei, Taiwan, where you can be held without trial for any
reason, and with which most attendees' countries have no diplomatic
relations whatsoever."

Hey, your description is not fair.  In addition, individual freedom may have no direct relationship with diplomatic ties.  Citations you can use
http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=546&year=2010
http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=363&year=2010

Can you guys go back to the practical matters regarding visa or entry?  Thank you.


On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Austin Hair <adhair@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 3:23 PM, matthew satchwell
<mattsatchwell@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is the thing with Zionists, a questions is not answered, instead a
> tirade of rhetoric, except I read from your response that you do accept that
> there is a lack of freedom in Israel. (this is a start)

I want to start by apologizing to the other members of this list for
feeding this.

You talk about a lack of freedom, Matthew, but I have to wonder about
your definition. I heard nothing from you when we held Wikimania in
the following countries:

2005: Frankfurt, Germany, where you can be arrested for giving a Nazi
salute in public or drawing a swastika.
2006: Cambridge, Massachusetts, where you can be held without trial on
terrorism charges.
2007: Taipei, Taiwan, where you can be held without trial for any
reason, and with which most attendees' countries have no diplomatic
relations whatsoever.
2008: Alexandria, Egypt, which was a police state until just a few weeks ago.

Argentina and Poland are also not exactly bastions of freedom, and
there were visa issues with both conferences. That's not unreasonable,
though, since every country on the planet has visa obstacles with at
least one other country.

Oh, wait, that's not true. There is one, and only one: the Maldives,
where you can be arrested for not being Muslim.

Austin

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