Lodewijk, AFAIK we've never kept track of
rejections, but I could find
out. My gut feeling is that there hasn't been a massive variation over the
past 4 years, I think Mexico City was the most open to everybody (?)
Rexford, possibly (and yeah Wiki = Wikileaks is *always* a problem lol).
But some visa systems are very closed and bureaucratic and it's hard to
bring any influence or assistance to bear beyond supporting documentation,
i.e you can't even talk to a human being about it.
To *truly assist* some of it would involve building political contacts
beforehand to advocate for visas (i.e your local representative can help
sometimes), that's a possibility but may create other problems, capacity
for a start.
The logistics of organising travel/accomm for hundreds of people from
hundreds of locations is already onerous, adding an intensive visa support
process into that it when some visa systems feel like a lottery would be
easy to overpromise and underdeliver.
What strikes me here is that visas are a problem for people from our
developing communities, but they are one of many factors in deciding a
Wikimania location.
One country that might be visa-friendly to one, is prohibitively expensive
to get to/stay in for another.
So while Australia might be relaxed in terms of visas (I'm not confident
of this btw) it's also objectively remote/expensive.
Whether a location has achieved that balance is always a question, and I
can't think of one Wikimania where everyone's agreed it has ;-)
Stuart
On 22 June 2017 at 12:12, Nkansah Rexford <nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com
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wrote:
It is easy to conclude the location hinders visa
application acceptance.
As much as it appears to be so, I strongly believe if there's good enough
Visa support and assistance from the Wikimania Team/WMF, rejected cases
could be low.
Obviously, an applicant should have documents intact and good, and submit
all the necessary details the embassy wants, including the invitation
letter. However, in some countries, that ain't enough.
In 2012, the invitation letter I submitted to the consular at the US
embassy here in Ghana, she didn't read, and I could see from her face how
nonsense it looked to her. Heck, anybody anywhere could conjure such a
sheet of paper with black ink on, any time any day. Plus, the consular had
NO idea what Wikimedia was. There was no way I could explain what Wikimedia
is in the few seconds I had in front of the teller-like counter.
Wiki? WikiLeaks? Duh!
As much a mere letter of invitation is formal to some extent, to what
extent is the WMF also willing to support visa applications outside just
the letter?
Not saying WMF should do exactly same, but I know other organizations
that pick up the phone, and call the local embassy of the invitee way ahead
of time to initialize conversations and to explain to *what extent* whoever
they've invited fits in the about-to-happen event.
The embassy in many cases, asks questions they won't otherwise ask the
applicant, but would, to the inviting organization.
This visa issue, until the WMF *truly assist*, some countries will still
struggle getting accepted visa.
It is not easy, and it ain't something just a letter wipes away.
rex
PS: I know cases where rejected visa are reconsidered and approved just
because the inviting organization literally stepped in, and got serious
with the embassy.
On Thursday, June 22, 2017, Bodhisattwa Mandal <
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wrote:
Hi,
The main topic of discussion among the scholarship recipients from
global south this month is the high visa rejection rate by Canadian
embassies from these countries.
This year, we had 7 scholarship recipients from Bengali community, 4
from India and 3 from Bangladesh. Already 3 out of 4 scholarship recipients
from Indian part of the communities got their visa rejected, others are
waiting. Although I am hoping for the best for all the scholarship
recipients, but may be news of more rejections are coming soon.
Wikimania should be organised in a visa friendly country, and not in
those countries where global south citizens are not allowed to enter even
for a 6-days conference. Otherwise, a global community is not truly
presented.
Best wishes,
Bodhisattwa
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