I seem to be missing the point here.
I thought you guys were going to contact him in his capacity as the dean of
the Al-Quds university, exploring how to cooperate with him on spreading the
news about Wikimania among students and helping those who want to attend.
Something which you guys have said repeatedly you are open to only if
someone can find you a contact? I don't see how his political affiliations
factor into the equation here.
It is disappointing to me that you guys repeatedly said you were willing to
do outreach into the palestinian territory but you lack contacts. And then
when contacts are available, as hard as it was to get them, you don't
consider even talking to them because of their political views. I doubt I
can find you any contacts that are 'apolitical' given the situation between
the Israelis and the Palestinians. And I am not even asking you to talk to
someone with extreme views that might offend you, You yourself said he was a
moderate.
I am sad to say that at this point I am inclined to think that the whole
outreach into under-privileged territories effort was not genuinely
considered.
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Harel Cain <harel.cain(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Muhammad,
The short answer is that we never contacted Sari Nusseibeh, and we're not
very satisfied with this situation.
This is for a mixture of reasons, some of them mundane (nobody really
picked up this specific suggestion; we were all busy; we forgot about it; we
all assumed someone else will do it) and some of them more to the point -
first and foremost because he is perceived, at least in the Israeli public,
as a downright political figure, having held formal positions positions on
the Palestinian side.
Clearly he's perceived as a moderate political figure, but that is totally
beside the point - we never meant to make Wikimania political (such as for
example inviting politicians to speak before us), and Sari Nusseibeh is very
much about politics.
Even his affiliation with moderate/leftist organizations on the Israeli
side of the political spectrum make this a political move in the inner
Israeli political perspective of the conference, and we don't want to make
Wikimania political even in this narrow sense.
We are not opposed to people trying to contact him, and I hope someone like
Dror Kamir on our part might still do it, but we are somewhat reserved about
his specific suitability here, because of unmistakeable political
involvement.
Harel Cain
Wikimania 2011 local team
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:11, Muhammad Yahia <shipmaster(a)gmail.com> wrote:
This is a contact I sent to this list almost a
year ago. When I was asked
to reach out to anyone and see if there is someone interested in
coordinating with the WM11 team. I was told by my Palestinian-American
friends that this university and its dean have campuses in East Jerusalem
and the WB, making it easy for Israelis to contact. The dean's cv has his
phone and email. It would be good if he is contacted to see if he is willing
to help.
http://sari.alquds.edu/cv_sari.htm
http://www.alquds.edu/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Quds_University
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sari_Nusseibeh
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Asaf Bartov <abartov(a)wikimedia.org>wrote;wrote:
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:33 AM, Kim Bruning
<kim(a)bruning.xs4all.nl>wrote;wrote:
The problem is that BDS (and others?) are
explicitly acting against
wikimania. I'd love to hear more reports
on this. I think having a wikimania in haifa is actually going
to be beneficial to all parties. :-)
Strictly speaking, we don't actually know this to be a problem. There is
no proof of the BDS campaign having dissuaded large numbers of potential
attendees, especially from Arab countries. Any such potential attendees
would have been dissuaded by other reasons, already discussed extensively on
this and other lists, -- political climate in their countries, personal
perception of attendance as implicit support of the Israeli government
policy, etc..
By all means go on publicizing WM2011 among Arabic speakers. Once again,
the local team has made it clear it is committed to helping anyone who would
like to attend. But perhaps it's time to stop pretending it is entirely up
to us whether Arabic speakers would be well-represented in this Wikimania or
not?
Asaf
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