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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Maarten Dammers)
   2. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Sage Ross)
   3. Re: Scholarship and early registration (stephen wanjau)
   4. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Thomas Dalton)
   5. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Samat)
   6. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Tomasz Koz?owski)
   7. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Thomas Dalton)
   8. Re: Scholarship and early registration (James Hare)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:09:39 +0200
From: Maarten Dammers <maarten@mdammers.nl>
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Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Scholarship and early registration
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Op 19-4-2012 18:32, Samat schreef:
> You are so impatient, Orsi :)
> Sage said:/very/ close.
This is not impatience. Organization is just very late. Last year the
scholarships were announced end of March, four months in advance of
Wikimania 2011. Now it's only 81 days left for Wikimania 2012.
It's a bit like the hotels, "almost done" since the beginning of April.

Maarten
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 09:27:01 -0400
From: Sage Ross <ragesoss+wikipedia@gmail.com>
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Yes. We're sorry it took so long. Results went out Friday. Chapter
scholarships should be finalized soon.

On the plus side, we expect to leave next year's team in a good position to
launch the process early.

-Sage

(sent from my phone)
On Apr 22, 2012 9:09 AM, "Maarten Dammers" <maarten@mdammers.nl> wrote:

> Op 19-4-2012 18:32, Samat schreef:
>
> You are so impatient, Orsi :)
> Sage said:* very* close.
>
> This is not impatience. Organization is just very late. Last year the
> scholarships were announced end of March, four months in advance of
> Wikimania 2011. Now it's only 81 days left for Wikimania 2012.
> It's a bit like the hotels, "almost done" since the beginning of April.
>
> Maarten
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:48:20 +0300
From: stephen wanjau <stevewanjau@wikimedia.or.ke>
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Hello,

I haven't received a feedback on my scholarship application status.

best,
[[user:stephenwanjau]]

On 4/22/12, Sage Ross <ragesoss+wikipedia@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes. We're sorry it took so long. Results went out Friday. Chapter
> scholarships should be finalized soon.
>
> On the plus side, we expect to leave next year's team in a good position to
> launch the process early.
>
> -Sage
>
> (sent from my phone)
> On Apr 22, 2012 9:09 AM, "Maarten Dammers" <maarten@mdammers.nl> wrote:
>
>> Op 19-4-2012 18:32, Samat schreef:
>>
>> You are so impatient, Orsi :)
>> Sage said:* very* close.
>>
>> This is not impatience. Organization is just very late. Last year the
>> scholarships were announced end of March, four months in advance of
>> Wikimania 2011. Now it's only 81 days left for Wikimania 2012.
>> It's a bit like the hotels, "almost done" since the beginning of April.
>>
>> Maarten
>>
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 14:54:28 +0100
From: Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Scholarship and early registration
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On 22 April 2012 14:09, Maarten Dammers <maarten@mdammers.nl> wrote:
> Op 19-4-2012 18:32, Samat schreef:
>
> You are so impatient, Orsi :)
> Sage said: very close.
>
> This is not impatience. Organization is just very late. Last year the
> scholarships were announced end of March, four months in advance of
> Wikimania 2011. Now it's only 81 days left for Wikimania 2012.
> It's a bit like the hotels, "almost done" since the beginning of April.

Keep in mind, last year was so ridiculously well organised that it was
always going to be a tough act to follow. Give them a chance!

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:12:54 +0200
From: Samat <samat78@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Scholarship and early registration
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On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 15:09, Maarten Dammers <maarten@mdammers.nl> wrote:

> Op 19-4-2012 18:32, Samat schreef:
>
> You are so impatient, Orsi :)
> Sage said:* very* close.
>
> This is not impatience. Organization is just very late. Last year the
> scholarships were announced end of March, four months in advance of
> Wikimania 2011. Now it's only 81 days left for Wikimania 2012.
> It's a bit like the hotels, "almost done" since the beginning of April.
>
> Maarten
>

Hi Maarten,

I know and agree.
My comment was a little bit with irony. Orsi knows me, and I hope she
understood that :)

Samat
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:13:18 +0200
From: Tomasz Koz?owski <odder.wiki@gmail.com>
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I can't find anything ridiculous in organising a conference well; on the
contrary, I think we all should try to reach the standards set by the
Haifa team.

I am absolutely /not/ surprised by the impatience shown on this list;
the later people know about their accommodation options, the more it's
going to cost them -- and we are talking about the Real Life Money(TM) here.

- --
Tomasz Koz?owski
a.k.a. [[user:odder]]

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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:21:13 +0100
From: Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton@gmail.com>
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2012/4/22 Tomasz Koz?owski <odder.wiki@gmail.com>:
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> I can't find anything ridiculous in organising a conference well; on the
> contrary, I think we all should try to reach the standards set by the
> Haifa team.

Oh, of course. Every year should try and be better than the year
before, but that doesn't mean they've failed if there is something
that ends up not being quite a good.

> I am absolutely /not/ surprised by the impatience shown on this list;
> the later people know about their accommodation options, the more it's
> going to cost them -- and we are talking about the Real Life Money(TM) here.

I don't think that's true. You can book now if you want to. You only
have to wait if you want to take advantage of the discounts that
organisers are able to negotiate, and those discounts aren't going to
be any less because they took longer to arrange.

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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 10:39:31 -0400
From: James Hare <messedrocker@gmail.com>
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2012/4/22 Tomasz Koz?owski <odder.wiki@gmail.com>:
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> Haifa team.
>
> I am absolutely /not/ surprised by the impatience shown on this list;
> the later people know about their accommodation options, the more it's
> going to cost them -- and we are talking about the Real Life Money(TM) here.

Not necessarily. We pursued fixed rates and we have been working on
this for months now. All the negotiating work is done and has been
done. The issue is logistical?we have to wait for these hotels to set
up the registration codes.

>
> - --
> Tomasz Koz?owski
> a.k.a. [[user:odder]]
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It does seem like we're being mute about things, and I do regret that.
But as a personal rule I don't like announcing things before they're
done. You have a right to complete information and that is what you
will get?once it is available.

Here is a sneak peak. We have the "official hotel" which will run
$189/night. It is a brief walk from the venue (or you could take a $6
taxi if you insist). It gets you some of the best free hotel wireless
in DC as well as continental breakfast. We will also be making a deal
with a $149/night hotel that is VERY close to the venue, but you have
to purchase breakfast. We also got a couple of hotels thrown in at
$149/night with free breakfast and wireless, but they are farther from
the venue (but we can easily arrange for group transportation). These
prices are before DC's ludicrous hotel tax. I'd also like to make some
beds in the hostel available for general consumption, but between all
the people receiving scholarships, I am not sure that can happen.

If I had my druthers, we'd have cheaper hotel rates. However, the
$189/night hotel is already at a steep discount (it normally sells for
$240 in the summer) and the $149 rate is the best you will get in
Washington, DC during the summer. It is worth noting that as a
conference we are prioritizing hotels that are close to the venue
(except for the two which are farther away, but those were too good an
offer to pass up?they're NICE hotels). You are all free men and women
and are welcome to book somewhere cheaply if you can find somewhere
cheap, since we figured that those looking to save money are going to
go to Priceline no matter what.

I shouldn't be saying this, but you may be able to get a good rate on
hotels if you book in Arlington; specifically, near the Rosslyn, Court
House, or Clarendon metro stations. Those are all on the same line as
the venue (located by the Foggy Bottom?GWU station), but are urbanized
enough areas that you don't need a car. Additionally, since they are
outside the city and in Virginia, the hotel tax is significantly
cheaper. If you're of limited means, consider booking in Arlington. If
you can afford the extra cost and would like to stay close to the
venue, adjacent to our special events and to great neighborhoods in
general, and in close proximity to other Wikipedians, please consider
the hotels we'll be promoting on our website soon.

I can't wait to see you all at Wikimania!

Regards,
James Hare

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