Number of countries that can enter a country without visa is not a good
measurement for a country being visa-friendly. Let's use your example. Per
what you said it seems Israel is a more visa friendly country than Italy
which is not correct. It's correct Israel allows more people to visit
without visa but 1- For a handful number of countries visiting Israel is
not an option at all (like mine which has twenty years in jail when I come
back) 2- if we pass that point, they are really difficult on giving visa to
Muslim/Arab countries passport holders. 3- The border control is very harsh
and can deny entry on strange reasons even with valid visa or passport of a
not-visa-needed country. What you just need is to look slightly non-Western
and they give you hell in border. It happened in a recent Wikimedia event.
Best
On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 2:33 AM Mykola Kozlenko <mycola-k(a)ukr.net> wrote:
Hi,
For the sake of the discussion on "it's way better in my country", please
look what your country's visa policy really is. For instance, check
https://www.passportindex.org/byWelcomingRank.php or relative (English)
Wikipedia articles. The former gives the following figures:
(Five latest Wikimania hosts)
* Canada: 51 country can enter visa-free, visa on arrival, ETA or
equivalent
* Mexico: 67
* UK: 91
* Italy: 93
* Hong Kong: 144
(Some other countries mentioned here)
* Australia: 34
* Thailand: 78
* Israel: 96
Yes, that means that Canada is the least visa-friendly Wikimania host in
the last 5 years. And yes, Thailand is less visa-friendly than the UK. And
yes, Australia is the least visa-friendly country with an established
Wikimedia chapter.
Thus please do refer to facts when qualifying a country as a visa-friendly
or not, and not to your own perception of a country's visa policy.
Thanks
Mykola (NickK)
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Від кого: "DaB." <wp(a)dabpunkt.eu>
Дата: 2 липня 2017, 23:19:44
Hello,
Am 02.07.2017 um 13:37 schrieb cs:
a country like Thailand where I live
you mean a country which is currently a military dictatorship (for the
second time in 10 years)? A country that was THIS close to a open civil
war? And if not a civil war, maybe a real war with Cambodia?
Visa problems are problematic, but it is 10 times better than to give
the Wikimania to an instable country – we are not the FIFA.
Sincerely,
DaB.
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