I agree that we should make rotation explicit, but that doesn't need to be done by region. We could achieve the same by requiring each bid to be a long haul flight from the previous one, and  a medium haul flight from the one before. Under the region proposal we could have Amman in Asia, Cairo in Africa and Athens in Europe all within four years. Or El Paso, Texas  one year and_Juarez, Chihuahua the next.

I suggest that instead we make the rotation explicit by distance, 4000 miles from the preceding venue, 3,000 miles from the one before that, 2,000 from the one three years prior and 1000 from the one four years earlier. We should also have a rule that prioritises countries that welcome such events with a more open visa policy.

Also if the Foundation wants to get better value for money, the venues could be determined through a commercial evaluation looking for the best value locations in the world regardless of whether or not there are locally organised wikimedians. Then get the programme determined by global volunteers. It wouldn't be too much of a burden on scholarship attendees if they got an email with their flight details asking them to volunteer to moderate or video a session.

Jonathan 

On 4 Oct 2015, at 21:57, Ralf Roletschek <ralf@roletschek.de> wrote:

Yes, thats right. +1

2015-10-04 22:55 GMT+02:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki@gmail.com>:

What I like about the explicit rotation:
* more transparency, the rotation is no longer an unwritten rule;
* more time (2 years) to make Wikimania great, less volunteer time spent on (concurring) bids;
* more concreteness and (hopefully) cooperation in the selection stage, less "let's beat continent X";
* more pragmatism, recognising we can't always flight the biggest groups of people in the farthest places.

Nemo

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