​Global North/Global South is an unrealistic fallacy ​creates a poor subdivision of resources it'd be better to see support for emerging and isolated communities, given that including 2017 this will be the 4th consecutive Wikimania in North America or Europe   

Yes the question could have been better framed, but the question remains as to how what is put in an application is validated especially when it comes to community work and impact, where there is a local active community are questions being asked.  For those that have previously received and reported after being a recipient what validation processes are there, which does leave people wondering how someone who is very active isnt getting through the process while others are.  TPS value is in the sharing of experiences both while there and with the local community afterwards if that isnt happening then the TPS is just a free holiday. I've also seen lots of events with apparent zero or near zero return as well.

Dislosure - 
  • I attended Wikimania in 2012 in Washington on a scholarship, learnt about QRpedia and started two QR projects here afterwards
  • I attended Wikimania in 2014 in London funded by the WMAU, where I did the WMUK training course and spent wikimania sharing the QRpedia experience at the village booth.
  • I was invited by the WMF to Mexico in 2015, declined because I had committed to working with University students establishing the first Indigenous Australian language Wikipedia  


On 22 May 2017 at 06:34, Risker <risker.wp@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm sorry, Pine....but no.  It's naming and shaming.  If Praveen had wanted to highlight the frequency of Wikimedians being granted Wikimania scholarsips, they could have done exactly what Mike Peel did - compare the relevant lists and highlight the frequency of users receiving one, two or three grants over the four years for which data is available.  That would have been - and is - a reasonable point of discussion.  It turns out that Praveen's information was incomplete at best, and incorrect at worst. 

It is unfortunate that people have to say "don't trash someone else because they got something you didn't".  But that's really what it comes down to.  There are a lot of valid discussion points about Wikimania TPS grants.  That one specific individual has received more than one of them, and someone is implying that the grantee failed to live up to their undertaken responsibilities, is not a reasonable way of discussing those points.  

I'm going to be honest - aside from the issue of multiple grant awards, I'm finding that this year's processes are a bit more clear than in previous years.  The partial grants, which are worth around 850 USD depending on room rates, are a good idea, and allow the recipients to select the most suitable means of transportation for them - especially now that so many more people are avoiding travel through certain geographic locations.[1]

It might be possible, given the number of applicants involved, to provide a bit more statistical information; for example, total applicants, number who passed Phase 1, number who passed Phase 2 and were ranked, percentage of total applicants who received a full or partial grant, etc.  It *might* be possible to provide the general information about Global South/Global North applicant ratio, but there might be a risk of de-anonymising [unsuccessful] applicants when trying to identify number of applications and scholarships from each size wiki community.  I think the WMF could probably also identify number of people who were awarded grants but could not accept them. 

Risker/Anne


[1] Disclosure - I received a set-dollar partial grant in 2013 - Hong Kong - which was supposed to pay for my airfare. However, it took so long to confirm the grant that the airfares had doubled from the time they had been calculated five months before.I'm still glad I went. 

On 21 May 2017 at 17:09, Pine W <wiki.pine@gmail.com> wrote:
Perhaps I have overlooked something, but it seems to me that what has been offered is a specific example, which I would distinguish from "being named and shamed" in the sense that the example is used to illustrate a potential problem -- in this case with the system rather than with an individual, although it's not exactly harassment to report potential misconduct if there was public evidence of such. Let's remember that transparency is something that we value, and keep calm and civil while discussing the situation.

Pine



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