Yes I was wondering about that. Helping people with visa applications is not a Wikimedia specialty (though I appreciate the work that has gone into the meta Learning patterns and those Wikipedia pages on visa policy that were linked earlier).

I am thinking that maybe we need local collaboration on visa issues through our chapter representatives with e.g. local conference holders? Maybe in local academia?

On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Ilario Valdelli <> wrote:

And to progress the best is to don’t forget some interesting points already defined in the previous emails.


One factual point is to have locally a mature and stable organization that can manage Visas and related problems with visas.


So, instead of speaking about dictatorships, the best is to stress this point.


Kind regards


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From: Asaf Bartov
Sent: 03 July 2017 04:43
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Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Visa rejections


DaB.: Wikimania has already been held in a military dictatorship (Egypt, 2008), without particular problems. 


But I suggest that this thread is not helped by personal opinions of countries. I applaud Mykola for introducing actual data into the discussion.




On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 6:48 PM cs <> wrote:

Do you have any idea what you are talking about?  I’ve lived here for nearly 20 years along with a million other Western expats. Or would you prefer SA with its extremely high crime rate and a history of bigotry that still lingers to this day. Now that’s a place I won’t be gong to.

> On 3Jul, 2017, at 04:19, DaB. <> wrote:
> Hello,
> Am 02.07.2017 um 13:37 schrieb cs:
>> a country like  Thailand where I  live
> you mean a country which is currently a military dictatorship (for the
> second time in 10 years)? A country that was THIS close to a open civil
> war? And if not a civil war, maybe a real war with Cambodia?
> Visa problems are problematic, but it is 10 times better than to give
> the Wikimania to an instable country – we are not the FIFA.
> Sincerely,
> DaB.
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