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Today's Topics:
1. Wikimedia Hong Kong offers Wikimania 2013 scholarship (Simon Shek)
2. Opinion of the community at large? (Sven Manguard)
3. Re: Opinion of the community at large? (phoebe ayers)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 00:31:32 +0800
From: Simon Shek <simon.shek@wikimedia.hk>
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Subject: [Wikimania-l] Wikimedia Hong Kong offers Wikimania 2013
scholarship
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本年度的維基媒體國際會議 Wikimania，將於8月7日至11日期間假香港九龍司地界內一處舉行。
為鼓勵本地參與，香港維基媒體協會特別宣佈，將為通常在港居住的香港維基人，提供出席提供全費旅費資助。有興趣申請的本港維基人，請將申請書在截止時間2013年4月1日23:59UTC前電郵到
wm13scholarship@wikimedia.hk，黃維基先生收。
申請者須為年滿18歲或以上通常在港居住的香港永久性居民，而且前往會議的出發地必須為香港境內任何地方。
申請者須確認並申明並沒有接受其他維基媒體或相關機構或實體的資助前往會議，如有發現，可能會被取消資格，並需退還有關資助。
Wikimedia Hong Kong is offering full traveling allowance for local
Wikimedians to attend Wikimania 2013 on 7-11 August 2013. Applications for
such allowances should be sent to Mr. Vviki Wong at
wm13scholarship@wikimedia.hk before 1 April 2013 23:59 UTC.
Applicants must be Hong Kong permanents over 18 years old who is currently
ordinarily reside in Hong Kong and whose travel to the conference must
start with a point within the territories of Hong Kong.
Applicants shall make sure, confirm and declare that his/her travel is not
sponsored or subsidized by other Wikimedia entities or relevant
organizations. Fail to comply such criteria may be subjected to
disqualification and ought to return the relevant allowances.
Simon Shek
Community Coordinator, Wikimania 2013 / Wikimedia Hong Kong
www.wikimedia.hk
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Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:33:45 -0400
From: Sven Manguard <svenmanguard@gmail.com>
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Subject: [Wikimania-l] Opinion of the community at large?
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Looking over the plans in the timeline section of that page, it looks like
there isn't a general community input section, where people unaffiliated
with the bidding or judging process can say things as basic as "I would
attend the proposed London Wikimania but would not attend the proposed
Arusha one". In fact, there doesn't even appear to be a section in the
criteria that accounts for whether the community at large is interested in
or opposed to specific bids or bid locations. I realize that the bidding
process is not a democracy, and that such a selection criteria would convey
significant advantages to cities/countries that have a large number of
users or are especially effective at mobilizing users to comment, but if
many more users want to go to one location over another, shouldn't that be
taken into account?
Sven
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Sumana Harihareswara <
sumanah@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2014/Bids - let's see if I can
> beat James!
> -Sumana
>
> On 03/16/2013 12:00 PM, Karthik Nadar wrote:
> > Hello James,
> >
> > thanks for the update. Could you please update us with the link too?
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Dear all: Please post any further questions you have for the two bids.
> >>
> >> Dear bidders: please review your bids this coming week to make sure
> >> they are complete.
> >>
> >> SJ
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 12:55 AM, James Forrester <jdforrester@gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>> All,
> >>>
> >>> To confirm, the candidate bids to host Wikimania 2014 are:
> >>>
> >>> * Arusha, Tanzania
> >>> * London, UK
> >>>
> >>> The bids now have two weeks (until 23:59 UTC on 17 March 2013) to
> >>> finalise all major information on their pages, responding to questions
> >>> from the jury and the community, and prepare for the
> >>> question-and-answer phase.
> >>>
> >>> Good luck to both bids!
> >>>
> >>> On behalf of the Wikimania 2014 Jury,
> >>>
> >>> Yours,
> >>> --
> >>> James D. Forrester
> >>> jdforrester@gmail.com
> >>> [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]] (speaking purely in a personal
> >> capacity)
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Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:57:19 -0700
From: phoebe ayers <phoebe.wiki@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Opinion of the community at large?
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On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Sven Manguard <svenmanguard@gmail.com>wrote:
> Looking over the plans in the timeline section of that page, it looks like
> there isn't a general community input section, where people unaffiliated
> with the bidding or judging process can say things as basic as "I would
> attend the proposed London Wikimania but would not attend the proposed
> Arusha one". In fact, there doesn't even appear to be a section in the
> criteria that accounts for whether the community at large is interested in
> or opposed to specific bids or bid locations. I realize that the bidding
> process is not a democracy, and that such a selection criteria would convey
> significant advantages to cities/countries that have a large number of
> users or are especially effective at mobilizing users to comment, but if
> many more users want to go to one location over another, shouldn't that be
> taken into account?
>
> Sven
>
Hi Sven,
Well, members of the community are more than welcome to comment on the talk
pages two bids -- some folks have been commenting, but more
opinions/questions/thoughts would be very welcome.
One truism of Wikimania is that every bid location is better for some
segment of the community and worse for others, either geographically or
geopolitically or both. That's a big part of why locations have rotated
around the globe. So rather than just a simple "I would attend/wouldn't
attend" it might be more helpful to have a specific discussion about how
any given bid would work for the community: for instance, noting that the
London bid is more convenient for Wikimedians in northern Europe, or that
we've never had a Wikimania in sub-Saharan Africa, or noting ease of travel
for various places, and so on.
thanks,
Phoebe
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