On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 7:26 AM, Chris Keating <chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Marc.

So - has the WMF committed to fund a 2018 Wikimania? If they haven't, then how is one going to happen?


​I am working on this with WMF now, as we do need to start planning for 2018 soon in order to ensure a viable team is in place, securing venues well in advance (to save $$), etc   So look for something in the coming month from WMF and the Committee.

Ellie Young
WMF Events Manager
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And while I wasn't entirely sure what to make of the WMF's consultation about the future of Wikimania, I can also see some methodological flaws in conducting a consultation among the group of people who come to the "future of Wikimania" session at Wikimania. 

Regards,

Chris

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Marc-Andre <marc@uberbox.org> wrote:
On 2016-07-08 10:01 AM, Chris Keating wrote:
Interestingly, I couldn't see any sign of the Committee's decision being informed by the WMF's consultation on the future of Wikimania, or anyone from the WMF's community engagement department being present.

Wikimania is, and always was, a community led and organized event. The WMF, as its traditional biggest sponsor[1], has a great deal of influence in the matter - but ultimately no decision power beyond "fund and resource or not".

The committee's decision has indeed taken into account the consultation you refer to - as well as the roundtable discussion on the "Future of Wikimania" that took place earlier[2].  Our evaluation, which is reflected in that resolution, is that the consultation was clearly flawed and that its conclusion does not reflect consensus - neither of the community members who organize nor of those who attend Wikimania.

-- Coren / Marc

[1] Although "underwrite" might be a better term - the WMF has pretty much shouldered the vast majority of the costs and given the most logistical support year in and year out.

[2] Where the consensus was to overwhelmingly reject that consultation's conclusion in favor or continuing with Wikimania as a yearly even given its irreplaceable role in our movement.

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