My dear Rexford,
Please read my email again. I clearly used the word _application_. I am very well aware of
who processes and issues the visa. My point was that you can not simply bend protocol and
forward your application documents directly to the embassy when there is a structure in
place to do just that.
Abbas.
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 11:50:41 +0200
From: nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com
To: wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Question for the WM 2014 London team
Well, don't be tricked!
They have outsourced the COLLECTION of the visa from the public to vfs, but it is the
embassy that ISSUES the visa.
The vfs people, EVERYDAY, send in applications they've received to the embassy they
work for. When the visa is processed and is ready, the vfs people will go and collect from
the embassy, and the applicant will go and collect the issued visa from VFS, thinking the
vfs people issued it.
If the vfs people issue visa, then why don't the embassy close, after all someone is
doing the job?
I was at the embassy, about 3 times, and I saw vfs car, bring in the application.
They've outsourced the collection, so that people don't overcrowd the embassy
residence all the times.
For Ghana, that's how it is. For other countries, I have no idea. Perhaps, the
consular is resting, whiles vfs issues visa.
Rexford | Africa Center |
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On Jan 13, 2014 11:08 AM, "Abbas Mahmood" <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
Most of the UK Embassies worldwide (including Ghana) outsource their visa application
handling to VFS Global, so sending the documents directly to the Embassy won't
work...
Abbas.
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 10:52:06 +0200
From: nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com
To: wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Question for the WM 2014 London team
In addition, there might be other better ways of handling issues for such applicants
wanting to attend the Wikimania other than just sending a signed letter to be given to the
embassy.
Perhaps, the Wikimedia UK, sending specific details of those they've awarded
scholarship to the originating country's embassy will give the embassy a fair idea of
the one applying.
Details like, passport details, itenary ticket, accommodation, length of stay,
arrangements to bring the attendee back, track record of returnees of such conferences,
and what the embassy should do to wikimedia uk if it happens the person doesn't back.
And these details should be sent directly to the embassy.
Informing the embassy beforehand is far professional looking and indicates seriousness on
the part of the inviting organization, than emailing a letter for the applicant to hold in
his hand and give to the embassy.
I'm in Ghana, and I know how it is on the ground. I went through hell to get visa from
south Africa embassy. The UK can be 5x worse.
If the best the inviting organization can do is send a letter, then there's little the
applicant here can do.
Rexford | Africa Center |
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On Jan 13, 2014 9:32 AM, "Nkansah Rexford" <nkansahrexford(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Do the invitation letter really change a thing? I will be surprised to see a consular
waive all those requirements because of a 1-paged white paper with black in on, signed by
an organization called Wikimedia UK.
For instance, in Ghana, consulate don't care who or what is inviting you, nor even
take delight in reading the letter.
If the requirements say get a certain amount and or fulfil certain requirements, please
get that with you.
Consular even reject visa from applicants invited by United Nations, so I'm still
wondering how much impact a letter can do.
Get your documents right. Its not easy, but it'll save you from disappointments.
Rexford | Africa Center |
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On Jan 13, 2014 3:31 AM, "Muhammad Yahia" <shipmaster(a)gmail.com> wrote:
If this is similar to US visa process, I would think an invitation from WM UK would be
enough to waive those requirements, that of course has to be arranged with the British
government.
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Ellie Young <eyoung(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
I have already brought this up with them and waiting to hear back (first response
didn't sound like there was much we can do frankly...) My comment about the spring
is that is when we will have a guide for our attendees who need visas. They said it
would be ready in the next couple of months. We won't be notifying people about their
scholarships until April.
And while we are on this subject, I want to reiterate that we expect individuals to cover
their own visa expenses as well
as contacting the British Consulate on their own or through a visa
service in their home country. The UK accepts applications for visas 90
days prior to the expected date of entering the UK (applying before doesn't do any
good.)
Ellie
On Jan 12, 2014, at 3:42 PM, aude <aude.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Ellie Young <eyoung(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
I will be sure to take this up when we are putting together instructions this Spring. UK
Immigation has agreed to
put together a "how to apply" guide for our event. I will be sure this issue
get put to them.
I wouldn't wait until spring to bring this up with UK immigration.
It's not too soon to start now. The process for folks in Iran can take quite a while
(if similar to the process for Wikimania 2012 in the US) but I think can be successful.
People in Iran will need to travel (at least once) to a UK consulate in Turkey or UAE to
apply.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/countries/iran/applying/?langname=UK%20En…
Cheers,Katie
Ellie
WMF Conference Coordinator
On Jan 12, 2014, at 2:08 PM, Muhammad Yahia <shipmaster(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I received this question about visas for Iranian
citizens and am passing it along:
As it stands now, UK visa requirements for Iranian citizens is to have a bank account
with (on average) 10000 USD or equivalent in the last six months, plus proof of ownership
of a property in Iran, the documents have to be translated and notarized.
Most of the volunteers interested in getting scholarship for WM or trying to arrange
travel on their own are mostly young people who do not satisfy either conditions, is there
something that the UK team can do about that? can they get confirmation that if they apply
these requirements will be waived or something similar?
Thanks!
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