If the talk is being exposed actively to a much larger audience, then that would definitely become a consideration yes. Being online for those looking for it, feels very different than being pushed on top of one of the top websites to me. But maybe that is a personal thing. 

Lodewijk


2014-04-15 22:33 GMT+02:00 Jan Ainali <jan@ainali.com>:

On April 15, 2014, Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org> wrote:

Hm, if you're going to advertize it on the centralnotice, maybe I will reconsider my availability for a live stream (perhaps depending on specifics). 
I am confused. Are you saying you are okay with being recorded only if you have a guesstimate of viewers that are very low? 

Seriously, while we have great speakers, I'm not sure all of us are confident enough for that kind of an outreach, nor would I feel that the average Wikimania speaker gives enough of a good impression to the average website visitor. 
I sort of agree, but rather from an interest aspect. The average website visitor are certainly not interested in the inner workings of our community. If central notice is used, it should be for specific sessions targeted on outreach to people unaware of how the Wikimedia universe works.

/Jan



Lodewijk


2014-04-15 14:10 GMT+02:00 Edward Saperia <ed@wikimanialondon.org>:
Well, almost everything we do leads to someone being very vocally upset :)

I haven't drafted what it would say yet, but I guess something along the lines of:
"Wikipedia is having its annual conference, Wikimania, where the community convene to discuss the future of the project - click here to watch a livestream."

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On 15 April 2014 13:02, Andrew Gray <andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk> wrote:
Among other issues, pretty much anything in a CentralNotice leads to someone being very vocally upset with what they see as spam. It's hard to predict quite how large or vocal that number will be in this case, as we haven't done it before :-)

(Are you thinking of some kind of specific message - "watch XYZ speaking about the future of Wikipedia" - or a generic "Wikimania is now on; watch here"?)

A.


On 15 April 2014 10:49, Edward Saperia <ed@wikimanialondon.org> wrote:
It isn't TED, but from the get go I've had outreach as a primary goal with this event, and I've been planning and programming with that in mind. This doesn't have to set a precedent for future Wikimanias. Technical concerns aside, what negative outcomes are you imagining?

Edward Saperia
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On 15 April 2014 10:28, James Alexander <jalexander@wikimedia.org> wrote:
To be honest I'm not completely sure I'm comfortable with that level of advertising (in fact it makes me very very uncomfortable) even if it works technically. This isn't TED....and I would hate to see it turn into that especially given the wide variety in organizers each year.

James

James Alexander
Legal and Community Advocacy
Wikimedia Foundation


On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:21 AM, Philippe Beaudette <philippe@wikimedia.org> wrote:

On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Edward Saperia <ed@wikimanialondon.org> wrote:
The livestreams will be promoted via a centralnotice

My understanding is that this is far from a decided thing.  There are still some massive concerns about your servers rolling over and dying with the traffic we send from this - particularly for streaming video which is already a bandwidth hog.  I'd want to see some testing first.

pb


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