I must agree with Craig here: that the chapters conference served only vegan
food this year wasn't a popular decision among southeast Asian delegates
either. You can't please everyone, and it is important to know whom to
please. Avoiding Sabbath and Ramadan is probably a good culturally aware
idea for a Wikimania in Israel; abstinence from pork for a Wikimania in
Poland (there were vegetarian options) probably not.
On Jul 21, 2011 8:27 PM, "Craig Franklin" <craig(a)halo-17.net> wrote:
The problem with what you're proposing is that
everyone has something they
don't want to see, and sooner or later you'll annoy someone by omitting
something they need. Case in point: the recent Chapters conference in
Berlin was vegan food only, which clashed with my cultural requirement to
have fish on a Friday.
You simply can't make everyone happy.
On 21 July 2011 22:22, WereSpielChequers <werespielchequers(a)gmail.com
> The reason why I suggested that we make a commitment that "future
> Wikimanias won't clash with Ramadan or certain other "culturally
> sensitive" dates", Is that as Harel pointed out it isn't just Islam
> that has dates we should avoid (and I appreciate that Muslims are
> exempt from their fast on their way to and from Wikimania). I accept
> that it won't be easy to come up with dates that work for a culturally
> sensitive global organisation, and I'm aware that this isn't the first
> time we've clashed with Ramadan. Globalisation is hard, coming up with
> a midyear date that doesn't clash with anything we don't want to clash
> with will not be easy, but if we truly want to Globalise the pedia we
> should at least try to do this.
> I don't observe Ramadan, or watch sport, and I'm happy to eat pork.
> But if we want future Wikimanias to be open to a truly global
> community then I believe that we should aim for Gdansk to be the last
> Wikimania with Pork on the menu and Haifa the last that clashes with
> any major religious event (I have no objection to a two hour break for
> sports fans provided there is, as at Gdansk, an alternative for the
> sportsphobic amongst us).
> On 20 July 2011 22:41, Casey Brown <lists(a)caseybrown.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Manuel Schneider
> > <manuel.schneider(a)wikimedia.ch> wrote:
> >> We discussed that last year and someone came up with a sensible
> >> If you are travelling during Ramadan, you are excempted from the fast.
> > It should also be noted that Wikimania 2009 also took place during
> > Ramadan, and Wikimania 2012 will miss it by only a few days.
> > There's also already a page on wikimania2011wiki directed at the
> > Muslim Ramadan-observing Wikimaniacs that has been up for almost an
> > entire year (August 2010!).
> > <http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ramadan>
> > Having Wikimania during Ramadan isn't a showstopper... they can still
> > partake in all of the normal Wikimania activities, and this year's
> > Wikimania has already made plans to support them.
> > --
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