I've just scrutinised the YouTube TOS in detail for the first time. The clause which says you can't download videos is in 5(B): (my emphasis)

You may access Content for your information and personal use solely as intended through the provided functionality of the Service and as permitted under these Terms of Service. You shall not download any Content unless you see a “download” or similar link displayed by YouTube on the Service for that Content. You shall not copy, reproduce, make available online or electronically transmit, publish, adapt, distribute, transmit, broadcast, display, sell, license, or otherwise exploit any Content for any other purposes without the prior written consent of YouTube or the respective licensors of the Content. YouTube and its licensors reserve all rights not expressly granted in and to the Service and the Content.

We obviously have the prior written consent to reproduce the videos to Commons. From my reading of the TOS, copying the videos to Commons shouldn't violate the TOS (in part because it wasn't "downloaded" - though "download" wasn't explicitly defined in the TOS).

IANAL.

 

On 21 January 2014 23:50, Jan Ainali <jan@ainali.com> wrote:

I already started uploading around 15 of them, not reading the ToS beforehand. :/

I used the script youtube2mediawiki.py so I am not sure I technically have 'downloaded' the files, at least they have never been on my computer.

/Jan

21 januari 2014, Andrew Lih <andrew@andrewlih.com> skrev:

Oh I can do it, and I know how to do so technically. I'm just pointing out by the letter of YouTube's TOS it's not permitted. :)

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On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki@gmail.com> wrote:

Andrew Lih, 21/01/2014 06:05:

Thanks for the extensive explanation, and as someone who's helped with
Wikimania video in the past, I absolutely feel your pain and commend you
for doing what you have so far.

Downloading from YouTube violates their TOS, though you'll notice people
do it all the time.

I've uploaded thousands of YouTube videos to archive.org, I can do these too with no problem.

Nemo

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