A country that almost everyone can go to is important
A country that most can afford to go to is important
A country where most can reasonably expect to be reasonably safe is important.
Without these the purpose of the event cannot be achieved
Safety is often a matter of choosing where you go and what you do. There is no utopia available. If you are so privileged that you can afford to go anywhere and don’t have visa problems anywhere, lucky you, but you don’t have to assume we are all in that situation.
Managing visa applications is the issue we are trying to deal with here (see the thread title), Advice that actually has some chance of practical applicability to this specific problem is welcome. For the rest please start another thread.
Personal prejudice against the local regime is a personal choice, and less important if the previous requirements are met.
Cheers,
Peter
From: Wikimania-l [mailto:wikimania-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Ilario Valdelli
Sent: Monday, 03 July 2017 10:02 AM
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Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Visa rejections
And to progress the best is to don’t forget some interesting points already defined in the previous emails.
One factual point is to have locally a mature and stable organization that can manage Visas and related problems with visas.
So, instead of speaking about dictatorships, the best is to stress this point.
Kind regards
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From: Asaf Bartov
Sent: 03 July 2017 04:43
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Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Visa rejections
DaB.: Wikimania has already been held in a military dictatorship (Egypt, 2008), without particular problems.
But I suggest that this thread is not helped by personal opinions of countries. I applaud Mykola for introducing actual data into the discussion.
A.
On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 6:48 PM cs <cs@edubkk.org> wrote:
Do you have any idea what you are talking about? I’ve lived here for nearly 20 years along with a million other Western expats. Or would you prefer SA with its extremely high crime rate and a history of bigotry that still lingers to this day. Now that’s a place I won’t be gong to.
Kudpung
> On 3Jul, 2017, at 04:19, DaB. <wp@dabpunkt.eu> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> Am 02.07.2017 um 13:37 schrieb cs:
>> a country like Thailand where I live
>
> you mean a country which is currently a military dictatorship (for the
> second time in 10 years)? A country that was THIS close to a open civil
> war? And if not a civil war, maybe a real war with Cambodia?
>
> Visa problems are problematic, but it is 10 times better than to give
> the Wikimania to an instable country – we are not the FIFA.
>
> Sincerely,
> DaB.
>
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