I agree that it would be wrong for chapter money to go into Wikimania bids,
especially as some bid teams have access to resources that others don't.
However London lost the last bid against Hong Kong partly because it was
deemed not to have "solid support from the chapter". Considering how much
support there was from the chapter it would be difficult to see how the UK
chapter could give more solid support without supplying paid staff time. So
the logical response to the jury's decision
is to
budget for more solid support from the chapter.
If the Jury had said that both bids were very good , but for 2013 it was
really time for another Wikimania in the Far East then we'd be in a
different situation.
WSC
On 25 August 2012 20:32, James Hare <messedrocker(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Staffing is a very good thing to spend money on—while
executing the
conference. Spending $62,000 on staff for a bid would be worth the
investment if bidding for Wikimania were anything like bidding for the
Olympics, but it is not. The spirit of Wikimania is ultimately from its
volunteer leadership, and if the Wikimedia UK volunteers cannot muster that
spirit to run their own bid, they have no hope and no soul.
James
On Aug 25, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Itzik Edri wrote:
Sorry, it's undiplomatic to interfere with others budget plans - but I
just can't ignore how the future of Wikimania will look like if others will
follow UK plans to invest £40,000 only for the bid process (about 62,000$).
I wrote my last response on that few minutes ago:
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:2013_Activity_Plan#5.2_Wikiconference_2013
"Hire a production company for half of this cost. It's really waste of
donors money, for what we expect to be done by volunteers, or for a minimum
costs. If every one who going to bid for Wikimania will spent this amount
of money (and why them not? if UK can, why others not?), it's mean that for
4 places every year we are "spending" more than 260,000$ only for the
bid!!!. --217.132.1.140 19:22, 25 August 2012 (UTC)"
I really think the "Wikimania" groups need to speak about that. It's the
first time a group/chapter spending such amount of money for bid, and it's
open a door for next cities to do the same - with money which can uses to
invest in Wikimania itself.
Itzik
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