I must agree with Craig here: that the chapters conference served only vegan food this year wasn't a popular decision among southeast Asian delegates either. You can't please everyone, and it is important to know whom to please. Avoiding Sabbath and Ramadan is probably a good culturally aware idea for a Wikimania in Israel; abstinence from pork for a Wikimania in Poland (there were vegetarian options) probably not.On Jul 21, 2011 8:27 PM, "Craig Franklin" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> The problem with what you're proposing is that everyone has something they
> don't want to see, and sooner or later you'll annoy someone by omitting
> something they need. Case in point: the recent Chapters conference in
> Berlin was vegan food only, which clashed with my cultural requirement to
> have fish on a Friday.
> You simply can't make everyone happy.
> On 21 July 2011 22:22, WereSpielChequers <email@example.com>wrote:
>> The reason why I suggested that we make a commitment that "future
>> Wikimanias won't clash with Ramadan or certain other "culturally
>> sensitive" dates", Is that as Harel pointed out it isn't just Islam
>> that has dates we should avoid (and I appreciate that Muslims are
>> exempt from their fast on their way to and from Wikimania). I accept
>> that it won't be easy to come up with dates that work for a culturally
>> sensitive global organisation, and I'm aware that this isn't the first
>> time we've clashed with Ramadan. Globalisation is hard, coming up with
>> a midyear date that doesn't clash with anything we don't want to clash
>> with will not be easy, but if we truly want to Globalise the pedia we
>> should at least try to do this.
>> I don't observe Ramadan, or watch sport, and I'm happy to eat pork.
>> But if we want future Wikimanias to be open to a truly global
>> community then I believe that we should aim for Gdansk to be the last
>> Wikimania with Pork on the menu and Haifa the last that clashes with
>> any major religious event (I have no objection to a two hour break for
>> sports fans provided there is, as at Gdansk, an alternative for the
>> sportsphobic amongst us).
>> On 20 July 2011 22:41, Casey Brown <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Manuel Schneider
>> > <email@example.com> wrote:
>> >> We discussed that last year and someone came up with a sensible remark:
>> >> If you are travelling during Ramadan, you are excempted from the fast.
>> > It should also be noted that Wikimania 2009 also took place during
>> > Ramadan, and Wikimania 2012 will miss it by only a few days.
>> > There's also already a page on wikimania2011wiki directed at the
>> > Muslim Ramadan-observing Wikimaniacs that has been up for almost an
>> > entire year (August 2010!).
>> > <http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ramadan>
>> > Having Wikimania during Ramadan isn't a showstopper... they can still
>> > partake in all of the normal Wikimania activities, and this year's
>> > Wikimania has already made plans to support them.
>> > --
>> > Casey Brown
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