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Asunto: Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 73, Issue 29
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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Announcement two finalists for Wikimania 2013 (steve virgin)
   2. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Delphine M?nard)
   3. Re: Scholarship and early registration (James Hare)
   4. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Nathan)
   5. Re: Scholarship and early registration (James Hare)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 21:24:26 +0100
From: "steve virgin" <steve@mediafocusuk.com>
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Good luck to London and Hong Kong from the Bristol team



Thanks to the judges for their patience, care and deliberation.



Best Wishes



Steve V on behalf of the team







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[mailto:wikimania-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Lodewijk
Sent: 22 April 2012 20:34
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Subject: [Wikimania-l] Announcement two finalists for Wikimania 2013



Dear all,


it is my pleasure to announce that the jury has been able to come up with an
intermediate result - and I would like to share with you the fact that two
finalist bids have been selected. All bids have been examined and discussed
at three public IRC meetings and several private conversations, and we have
come to the conclusion that we will now focus our attention on the two bids
with in our opinion the highest potential: Hong Kong and London (in
alphabetical order).


We were blessed this year with a strong field of bids, and I would like to
extend our sincere thanks to the bidding teams of Bristol, Naples and
Surakarta for their extensive and well worked out bids - but also the effort
they put into answering our extensive enquiries. I think all three bids had
very good qualities and their strong points and with work could make a
wonderful and very competing bid in a future year.

This decision has been made based on the primary evaluation of the bid
quality, with a special focus to suitability of the Venue, Accommodation and
the reliability and viability of the local team (did we have the feeling
they were up for the task). We will not be sharing an extensive reasoning at
this point for each bid - but I think we can give feedback after the final
decision about the winning bid has been made, in private communication.

So what is next? The two candidates will be reviewed more extensively, we
will assess the risks and whether they will actually be able to live up to
the promises more thoroughly. We may be needing a few days extra compared to
the original timeline, but hopefully not too much.

With kind regards, for the Wikimania 2013 jury,

Lodewijk Gelauff



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Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 02:11:15 +0200
From: Delphine M?nard <notafishz@gmail.com>
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On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:32 PM, James Hare <messedrocker@gmail.com> wrote:

> The deals we're arranging have no extra charge for dual occupancy.

This might sound extremely stupid, but make sure that dual occupancy
means 2 beds in a room, not a Queen Size Bed. There are surprisingly
few hotels that actually offer two separate beds in a room or their
contingent of such rooms is actually quite limited. At the prices that
were mentionned, you really want to book all the double bed rooms in
those hotels, because very few people will be able to afford a single
room.

Best,

Delphine
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Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 20:17:35 -0400
From: James Hare <messedrocker@gmail.com>
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On Apr 22, 2012, at 8:11 PM, Delphine M?nard <notafishz@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:32 PM, James Hare <messedrocker@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The deals we're arranging have no extra charge for dual occupancy.
>
> This might sound extremely stupid, but make sure that dual occupancy
> means 2 beds in a room, not a Queen Size Bed. There are surprisingly
> few hotels that actually offer two separate beds in a room or their
> contingent of such rooms is actually quite limited. At the prices that
> were mentionned, you really want to book all the double bed rooms in
> those hotels, because very few people will be able to afford a single
> room.

You will get your choice of two beds or one large bed. Easily done. :)

James

>
> Best,
>
> Delphine
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>
> NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost.
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 20:35:10 -0400
From: Nathan <nawrich@gmail.com>
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2012/4/22 Delphine M?nard <notafishz@gmail.com>

> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:32 PM, James Hare <messedrocker@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The deals we're arranging have no extra charge for dual occupancy.
>
> This might sound extremely stupid, but make sure that dual occupancy
> means 2 beds in a room, not a Queen Size Bed. There are surprisingly
> few hotels that actually offer two separate beds in a room or their
> contingent of such rooms is actually quite limited. At the prices that
> were mentionned, you really want to book all the double bed rooms in
> those hotels, because very few people will be able to afford a single
> room.
>
> Best,
>
> Delphine
> --


I'm not sure about this... While I haven't done a survey or discovered any
references on point, I've stayed in a number of hotels in Washington and
throughout the U.S. and almost always encounter two beds in a room as a
single occupant. Since I'm commenting anyway, I will say that $149 is a
very good rate for hotels in Washington D.C.

And while Thomas Dalton denigrates it as "a silly American habit" to quote
prices before taxes, that may be because we have so many different tax
domains with different rates. It helps to know the pre-tax amounts (similar
to how airline seats are often quoted) for comparison purposes, as the tax
component will give you no sense of the accommodations or amenities
expected etc. I suppose that may not be commonly understood by travelers
from small nations with primarily national tax policies.

~Nathan
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Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 20:44:42 -0400
From: James Hare <messedrocker@gmail.com>
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On Apr 22, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Nathan <nawrich@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> 2012/4/22 Delphine M?nard <notafishz@gmail.com>
> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:32 PM, James Hare <messedrocker@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The deals we're arranging have no extra charge for dual occupancy.
>
> This might sound extremely stupid, but make sure that dual occupancy
> means 2 beds in a room, not a Queen Size Bed. There are surprisingly
> few hotels that actually offer two separate beds in a room or their
> contingent of such rooms is actually quite limited. At the prices that
> were mentionned, you really want to book all the double bed rooms in
> those hotels, because very few people will be able to afford a single
> room.
>
> Best,
>
> Delphine
> --
>
> I'm not sure about this... While I haven't done a survey or discovered any references on point, I've stayed in a number of hotels in Washington and throughout the U.S. and almost always encounter two beds in a room as a single occupant. Since I'm commenting anyway, I will say that $149 is a very good rate for hotels in Washington D.C.
>
> And while Thomas Dalton denigrates it as "a silly American habit" to quote prices before taxes, that may be because we have so many different tax domains with different rates. It helps to know the pre-tax amounts (similar to how airline seats are often quoted) for comparison purposes, as the tax component will give you no sense of the accommodations or amenities expected etc. I suppose that may not be commonly understood by travelers from small nations with primarily national tax policies.

I totally get your argument, but I also quoted the prices net of tax because it's what I do as a silly American. :p

But yes. While full disclosure of prices is important, tax is common to all of these and it makes the true market value seem higher than in reality.

So between my initial email and the follow-up explaining the 14.5% tax, we have now seen both sets of numbers.

James


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